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Lacan Grahf Restricted

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If you get stoned and read my post, it will seem to be really cool. 😛

Ah, you're a recruiter.

How fiendishly clever of you. 😖hifty:

inimalist Junior Member

Originally posted by Lacan Grahf
My curiosity about the subject pretty much begins and ends with the appeal of the substance itself. Would someone care to explain, in vivid detail? 😄

I imagine it is some initial curiosity as to "what does this do?", followed by enjoying the experience, such that you want to do it again.

I'm sure everyone can give you different reasons, in my case, it is certain that the reasons I get high now are much different than what caused me to get high in the first place.

Now it is a matter of preference, most things I would just rather do high, because the stresses involved seem less pronounced and I am generally in a better mood.

You aren't going to find some "theory of why people get high" though

Lacan Grahf Restricted

Originally posted by inimalist
I imagine it is some initial curiosity as to "what does this do?", followed by enjoying the experience, such that you want to do it again.
I'm sure everyone can give you different reasons, in my case, it is certain that the reasons I get high now are much different than what caused me to get high in the first place.
Now it is a matter of preference, most things I would just rather do high, because the stresses involved seem less pronounced and I am generally in a better mood.
You aren't going to find some "theory of why people get high" though

That was a well thought out response.

I suppose I'm examining this through a sociological perspective. The use of marijuana, even in an increasingly liberal environment, is still considered deviant behavior. Is marijuana use the result of a person's instinctual desire for autonomy, rebellion, or a genuine love for its effects? Do users believe that happiness or bliss is unattainable without it?

On the flipside, my caution around marijuana is likely the result of fear. There is an overriding stereotype about so-called 'potheads' being lazy, unambitious, amoral, and stupid and the very few that I know propogate this belief.

But I try not to be a slave to stereotypes and propaganda, so I'd like to know more...

...Without actually trying it, of course. 😎

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Originally posted by Lacan Grahf
Ah, you're a recruiter.
How fiendishly clever of you. 😖hifty:

No. I'm a smart ass. 😉

Lacan Grahf Restricted

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No. I'm a smart ass. 😉

Spoiler:
So am I. Can you not tell? 😖hifty:

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Lacan Grahf
That was a well thought out response.
I suppose I'm examining this through a sociological perspective. The use of marijuana, even in an increasingly liberal environment, is still considered deviant behavior. Is marijuana use the result of a person's instinctual desire for autonomy, rebellion, or a genuine love for its effects? Do users believe that happiness or bliss is unattainable without it?
On the flipside, my caution around marijuana is likely the result of fear. There is an overriding stereotype about so-called 'potheads' being lazy, unambitious, amoral, and stupid and the very few that I know propogate this belief.
But I try not to be a slave to stereotypes and propaganda, so I'd like to know more...
...Without actually trying it, of course. 😎

I gave the old college try with a couple of my friends to try and explain the effects of Marijuana to someone who's never tried it, but its simply way too difficult. In my area, there isn't even a bias against smokers at all because of the hippie influence. People smoke in public in certain places and nobody gives a damn. So, I would have to say, it is definitely the effects of the substance that motivate me, and I can't really enunciate what they are in a way that truly evokes the experience.

Lacan Grahf Restricted

So it's basically a rapture that can't be described and can only be experienced?

Would you say that the effects are addictive, in their own way?

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Originally posted by Lacan Grahf
So it's basically a rapture that can't be described and can only be experienced?
Would you say that the effects are addictive, in their own way?

As addictive as a TV show.

Lacan Grahf Restricted

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
As addictive as a TV show.

So by that you mean "pretty damn"? 😂

King Kandy Senior Member

I wouldn't call it a "rapture", its almost less about what it itself does, then the way it causes other things to be thought about. Like, if you give someone pot and put them in a totally unstimulating environment, they will be as unhappy and bored as anyone else. You need to get some momentum going.

Well, since I started using it, i've liked it more and more as time went on 😄. I've gone weeks without using it and I never felt anything negative associated with fasting. So, it may have some psychological aspects similar to addiction, but, if you're envisioning anything like alcoholism, that's far, far off the mark.

Lacan Grahf Restricted

Originally posted by King Kandy
I wouldn't call it a "rapture", its almost less about what it itself does, then the way it causes other things to be thought about. Like, if you give someone pot and put them in a totally unstimulating environment, they will be as unhappy and bored as anyone else. You need to get some momentum going.
Well, since I started using it, i've liked it more and more as time went on 😄. I've gone weeks without using it and I never felt anything negative associated with fasting. So, it may have some psychological aspects similar to addiction, but, if you're envisioning anything like alcoholism, that's far, far off the mark.

Yeah, the term addiction can be misused. I'm not sure if there's any psychological or neurological evidence suggesting that the watching of television shows or constant participation in sex or whatnot is comparable to alcoholism or cigarette addiction.

Essentially, would it honestly be a struggle for you to stop smoking pot, cold turkey?

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Lacan Grahf
Yeah, the term addiction can be misused. I'm not sure if there's any psychological or neurological evidence suggesting that the watching of television shows or constant participation in sex or whatnot is comparable to alcoholism or cigarette addiction.
Essentially, would it honestly be a struggle for you to stop smoking pot, cold turkey?

There is a kind of addiction related to sex, television, exercise etc. This is the same kind of addiction related to marijuana. Its not like nicotine where there's a purely mechanical addiction from the substance itself, on top of the psychological aspects.

No. I've had to do so many times due to poor supplies, for weeks or months. Its no trouble at all.

Lacan Grahf Restricted

Originally posted by King Kandy
There is a kind of addiction related to sex, television, exercise etc. This is the same kind of addiction related to marijuana. Its not like nicotine where there's a purely mechanical addiction from the substance itself, on top of the psychological aspects.
No. I've had to do so many times due to poor supplies, for weeks or months. Its no trouble at all.

Very good.

Next question: if the health risks are minimal or nonexistent, would you allow your children to do it?

King Kandy Senior Member

Once they are old enough (like, late teenage), I would. My parents did the same for me, on the condition that I had to keep up good academics.

Lacan Grahf Restricted

Originally posted by King Kandy
Once they are old enough (like, late teenage), I would. My parents did the same for me, on the condition that I had to keep up good academics.

Why the age restriction?

King Kandy Senior Member

I think if they were younger, they'd just use it hedonistically to an unhealthy extent, like giving them a big bowl of candy.

Lacan Grahf Restricted

Originally posted by King Kandy
I think if they were younger, they'd just use it hedonistically to an unhealthy extent, like giving them a big bowl of candy.

Admittedly, I'm not ass deep in marijuana-relevant literature and analysis, so correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't it been postulated that there is little to no harmful effects to its use?

So where is the risk, psychologically or medically?

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Lacan Grahf
Admittedly, I'm not ass deep in marijuana-relevant literature and analysis, so correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't it been postulated that there is little to no harmful effects to its use?
So where is the risk, psychologically or medically?

Right, that's why I used candy. Its pretty benign, but the problem is more like, if they eat all the candy they want, they'll neglect a healthy diet. In this case, if they get all the pot they want, they might neglect activities that require them to be sober.

Lacan Grahf Restricted

So then you recognize that there is a danger to the use of marijuana?

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Lacan Grahf
So then you recognize that there is a danger to the use of marijuana?

I think there's a "danger" in letting small children have too much of anything that might displace their productive activities. Its no different from limiting the time your kids spend playing video games so that they'll do their homework.