Originally posted by Omega VisionOh definitely. I was just wondering how. Unless he does something DBZ style.
It might mean that he has the power to cause a global cataclysm. There's a huge gap in power between what it takes to bust a planet completely and what it takes to merely render it uninhabitable for humans.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
This smacks of heavy ABC logic.
I would say that, if the meteor was an actual character. I mean, if you could use your body to physically destroy a meteor that would leave a gaping wound upon the face of the earth. I think that's worth mentioning. I also think that if 'he' crashed down on the earh, he could cause even more damage than the meteor would.
The meteor would be traveling for thousands, maybe million of years, gathering energy. Akuma hasn't had anywere near the time the meteor had, but he still intercepts the meteor and destroys it.
Originally posted by No End N Site
I would say that, if the meteor was an actual character. I mean, if you could use your body to physically destroy a meteor that would leave a gaping wound upon the face of the earth. I think that's worth mentioning. I also think that if 'he' crashed down on the earh, he could cause even more damage than the meteor would.The meteor would be traveling for thousands, maybe million of years, gathering energy. Akuma hasn't had anywere near the time the meteor had, but he still intercepts the meteor and destroys it.
Without knowing the meteor's composition we have no idea how durable/cohesive it was.
Originally posted by Omega VisionEven if he had more he would have a smaller point of impact. Then again he has ki energy to use as well.
So?In the Iron Giant the titular character intercepted a nuke and (albeit in a less pristine shape than Akuma) survived. This does not mean the Iron Giant had the same destructive output as the nuke.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
So?In the Iron Giant the titular character intercepted a nuke and (albeit in a less pristine shape than Akuma) survived. This does not mean the Iron Giant had the same destructive output as the nuke.
Based off of the facts that other SF characters can vaporize cities, split seas, so on and so forth, it's not that great of a leap to assume that Shin Akuma can equal the power of the meteor he overpowered. And we're forgettin' the fact that Akuma has displayed insane destructive output whilst holdin' back large portion of his power. One could assume that he would be capable. Splittin' Ayers Rock in half would require massive amounts of power. Plus the fact that, within moments Akuma, a man, leaped into space is also evidence that he is capable of incredible power.
Originally posted by No End N Site
Based off of the facts that other SF characters can vaporize cities, split seas, so on and so forth, it's not that great of a leap to assume that Shin Akuma can equal the power of the meteor he overpowered. And we're forgettin' the fact that Akuma has displayed insane destructive output whilst holdin' back large portion of his power. One could assume that he would be capable. Splittin' Ayers Rock in half would require massive amounts of power. Plus the fact that, within moments Akuma, a man, leaped into space is also evidence that he is capable of incredible power.
Originally posted by carver9
That raging demon technique is a plot and its a cop out to use in a battle. I thought that you was going to debate c- master instead of relying on one attack to pull a win?
Uh...no. It is his most famous attack that he's used several times. Most characters have no way out of it. I've also brought up several other attacks and feats... namely the Misogi, which is possibly his most powerful move. I didn't chide you on forcefield use or nanobots did I?
You shouldn't concede that easily my friend. C'mon and post something. Like I said I'm willing to change my mind, it's just so far it points to Gouki.♠
gouki only uses it on someone he deems worthy of dying like that, the only time he just did it without a fight is when he killed bison with it at the end of the second world warrior tournament.
as for the attack, other than the games the shun goku satsu (instant hell murder (literal translation)) is just gouki warping at the opponent and passing them, some flash(es), then the character passes away. he only grabs you in the games for the sake of gameplay, and in super street fighter turbo, his raging demon was almost unavoidable as well as a oneshot victory.
and streetfighter 3 third strike > svc 2
But he needs to grab his opponent to activate Shin Goku????
5 pages of people patting each others backs for a super move.....which in every game requires charging.
Ironman Extremis-
Invisibility.
Spider sense.
Bison level speed.
Sonics.
Nanos.
Repulsor blasts that move at the speed of light.
Sensors that can register beings in the Astral Plane. So good luck phasing Akuma.
Flight.
micro sec computer tactical.
And more......
And Akuma-
Shin Goku Satsu and
flash steps/phasing.
Ironman hits the sky and scans the hell out of Akuma! Tny registered Dr Strange in Astral form.
And Akuma aint touching Tony while his ears are torn apart and Tony can sense and co-ordinate his phase jumps. Plus Akuma can't see Tony because he is invisible and even if Akuma got a lucky strike Spider Sense will warn Stark of it.
Extremis wins 9/10 if not more.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Punch grab fart spit so what same results.And of course he has to charge it. You can't play Akuma and instantly perform it on Ryu Straight away.😛
Akuma went from being an ultra cool killer to a Looney Tune Joke Character.
That doesn't have one durability showing that would make me believe that he could survive a repulsor ray or a punch from someone as powerful as ironman.
Originally posted by the ninjakthat's just gameplay
Punch grab fart spit so what same results.And of course he has to charge it. You can't play Akuma and instantly perform it on Ryu Straight away.😛
when you couldn't use gouki in his street fighter 2 debut, his moves were all more powerful, now since he's standard issue, he's weaksause
his defense was lowerd in third strike cause he's usable in tournament play, his street fighter 2 sprite character would be too cheap. that guy just hits you with the raging demon whenever
Originally posted by the ninjakyeah, he's shit
Akuma went from being an ultra cool killer to a Looney Tune Joke Character.
gouki never used to speak either, now he's won't stfu. and his english voice sounds worse than christian bale's batman
gouki is now meh
Akuma is still one of my favorite SF characters but the fact that he can talk, and does so like a regular character, is very disapointing.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm not necessarily saying he can't exceed the offensive power of the meteor's impact, just saying that the meteor feat by no means is proof of that, and that to use it as such is ABC logic.
I see, makes sense. My reasoning was based mostly on the fact that he had extreme showings while holding back. Not 'soley' A>B>C logic.
Akuma does talk more, but I don't think it's that bad. Then again nobody ever likes the English voices.
Capcom vs SNK 2>>> Third Strike, although 3rd strike was great.
Originally posted by the ninjakWe're just trying to explain to the guys the mechanics of his move.
But he needs to grab his opponent to activate Shin Goku????5 pages of people patting each others backs for a super move.....which in every game requires charging.
Ironman Extremis-
Invisibility.
Spider sense.
Bison level speed.
Sonics.
Nanos.
Repulsor blasts that move at the speed of light.
Sensors that can register beings in the Astral Plane. So good luck phasing Akuma.
Flight.
micro sec computer tactical.
And more......And Akuma-
Shin Goku Satsu and
flash steps/phasing.Ironman hits the sky and scans the hell out of Akuma! Tny registered Dr Strange in Astral form.
And Akuma aint touching Tony while his ears are torn apart and Tony can sense and co-ordinate his phase jumps. Plus Akuma can't see Tony because he is invisible and even if Akuma got a lucky strike Spider Sense will warn Stark of it.Extremis wins 9/10 if not more.
Lol, he has no Bison level speed in combat that I know of, Spider-Man has gotten the drop on him up close several times (and yes Spider-Man would lose in a forum fight, but he can hang up close). Flight won't matter because Akuma can reach him. He can sense Akuma possibly, but his warp will just allow him to reach Tony instantly. I've already gave concrete evidence about all of his move and the Misogi requires no charge, nor did the punch or the kick he used on the rock. This is what me and jinzin were talking about. You can clearly show someone something and explain it on this forum and people will sit there and say it didn't happen or it doesn't exist. I haven't seen the opposition say anything besides "nuh uh" and keep saying Iron Man wins. Maybe I'll need to switch sides in a second.
Now the mountain attack did require a charge. I agree with that, not that it matters as he has better and faster moves now. Akuma has projectiles that are more powerful than Tony's that he can continue to fire. You're just using gameplay mechanics. The game "freezes" for the second the move comes out, he uses those attacks instantly, except for Kongou. Not ot mention Tony has to charge some of his abilities himself. As for durability, the man can sit at the bottom of the ocean and bullets don't even bother him. He can also hit the very things he destroys, so that says a lot about his durability there.
The problem is... Tony *can* beat Akuma with his best attacks, but those said moves also lead him open and he can only do so many of them. Akuma can win with one hit raging demon or not.
And as for the Looney Tunes... 😄
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