Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
really based on what? Unlike vamps they have actaully accomplished feats against establish characters, while vamps have gottne there shit kicked in by wolverine normal human friends.
Originally posted by TrackzCorrect.
...no, against a horde of vampires, heroes usually lose or retreat. unlike hand ninjas which usually just ends up in a bunch of dead ninjas. wolverine was up against weaker vampires, stated by Xarus because they wanted to lure him to their base in order to turn him.
Originally posted by Trackz
...no, against a horde of vampires, heroes usually lose or retreat. unlike hand ninjas which usually just ends up in a bunch of dead ninjas. wolverine was up against weaker vampires, stated by Xarus because they wanted to lure him to their base in order to turn him.
Yeah, that was never stated. In fact in Marvel Canon Nasferatu are more powerful than typical vampires, the down sided being the need a more potent / powerful blood source to sustain themselves.
Originally posted by YFZ 350Well, then "he kills vampires so he's superior" kind of argument should also be a no no.
I thought ABC logic was a no no.
Originally posted by TrackzTrue, they're tougher now. I just believe if BE got the equipment Blade sometimes uses he could def kill some.
that used to be the case, no anymore, current marvel vampires are teched out. also Blade doesn't really used specialized equipment in many of his fights.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah, that was never stated. In fact in Marvel Canon Nasferatu are more powerful than typical vampires, the down sided being the need a more potent / powerful blood source to sustain themselves.
Xarus stated he left breadcrumbs for Wolverine to follow, so yea they weren't bringing out their best guys with Wolverine, and it was obvious since the Claw and Kreiger sects which have been established as some of the more deadly vampires weren't there.
Wolverine wasn't even fighting the nosferatu, he was fighting the atlantean vampires out of water for the most part.
Also wolverine killing those vampires was PIS, and I'm pretty sure some of them may have feigned death, since wolverine slashed their chest and they seemingly died, in the first issue wolverine tried this same tactic only to be told that his claws weren't wood so had no effect. the only way wolverine should be able to kill a vampire is by decapitation.
Originally posted by SamZED
Well, then "he kills vampires so he's superior" kind of argument should also be a no no.True, they're tougher now. I just believe if BE got the equipment Blade sometimes uses he could def kill some.
kill some? sure. he could easily get overwhelmed though since for the most part they're much faster and stronger, and a few of them wouldn't be stopped short of some type of stake to the heart. I mean in the Blade one-shot we saw what happens to skilled humans who try to fight a horde of vampires, they literally got torn apart. Not discrediting Bullseye and I'm sure he'd do fine in a comic.
Originally posted by Trackz
Xarus stated he left breadcrumbs for Wolverine to follow, so yea they weren't bringing out their best guys with Wolverine, and it was obvious since the Claw and Kreiger sects which have been established as some of the more deadly vampires weren't there.Wolverine wasn't even fighting the nosferatu, he was fighting the atlantean vampires out of water for the most part.
He also said he didn't care if Wolverine lived, died, or was merely captive. He just wanted "one of the most powerful x-men" out of the picture. Claw and Kreiger are the most powerful sects because of their warrior discipline and skill, Nosferatu are supposed to be more powerful than average, but in the vampire world skill trumps > mild attribute difference. The need for more powerful blood sources than normal vampires is also a detriment to the Nosferatu, and I don't think their numbers are nearly as great as any of the other sects.
He was fighting Nosferatu until he fell into the water, then he fought some Atlantean vampires. Interesting to note, but the Nosferatu were previously hinted as being from Atlantis themselves, but I guess this current run debunks that.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He also said he didn't care if Wolverine lived, died, or was merely captive. He just wanted "one of the most powerful x-men" out of the picture. Claw and Kreiger are the most powerful sects because of their warrior discipline and skill, Nosferatu are supposed to be more powerful than average, but in the vampire world skill trumps > mild attribute difference. The need for more powerful blood sources than normal vampires is also a detriment to the Nosferatu, and I don't think their numbers are nearly as great as any of the other sects.He was fighting Nosferatu until he fell into the water, then he fought some Atlantean vampires. Interesting to note, but the Nosferatu were previously hinted as being from Atlantis themselves, but I guess this current run debunks that.
...no he didn't. this quote you're talking about is in reference to Jubilee's comment that Wolverine was fighting the vampire virus, Xarus said it didn't matter as long as they had him captive.
Nosferatu have wings and fly, Wolverine was fighting nosferatu, he was fighting atlanteans the whole time, the blue vampires are the aqueous, can see them in the Namor series, Atlantean vampires have a coupel of different breeds, none of them are nosferatu.
Wolverine only fought Nosferatu with Collosus and was having a hard time even managing to land a hit, even with storms help. Until, of course, Blade came along and hand delivered them one.
Originally posted by srankmissingninall vampires originated from the Atlantean race thousands of years ago...
He also said he didn't care if Wolverine lived, died, or was merely captive. He just wanted "one of the most powerful x-men" out of the picture. Claw and Kreiger are the most powerful sects because of their warrior discipline and skill, Nosferatu are supposed to be more powerful than average, but in the vampire world skill trumps > mild attribute difference. The need for more powerful blood sources than normal vampires is also a detriment to the Nosferatu, and I don't think their numbers are nearly as great as any of the other sects.He was fighting Nosferatu until he fell into the water, then he fought some Atlantean vampires. Interesting to note, but the Nosferatu were previously hinted as being from Atlantis themselves, but I guess this current run debunks that.
so technically their original vampire ancestors were atlanteans.. just not them. 😉
Originally posted by Trackz
...no he didn't. this quote you're talking about is in reference to Jubilee's comment that Wolverine was fighting the vampire virus, Xarus said it didn't matter as long as they had him captive.Nosferatu have wings and fly, Wolverine was fighting nosferatu, he was fighting atlanteans the whole time, the blue vampires are the aqueous, can see them in the Namor series, Atlantean vampires have a coupel of different breeds, none of them are nosferatu.
Wolverine only fought Nosferatu with Collosus and was having a hard time even managing to land a hit, even with storms help. Until, of course, Blade came along and hand delivered them one.
You are mistaken. Those are the Charniputra vampires. Nosferatu vampires are the ones that look like - you guessed - iconic film vampire Nosferatu. Which is what Wolverine was fighting before he fell into the water.
