DP Tyrant runs the Odin challenge....

DP Tyrant has decided to settle the issue of who is "teh badder muthafugger" once and for all and so has challenged Odin to a fight...how does DP Tyrant do against Odin in the following situations:

1) Battle in Asgard; Odin limits himself to fighting without using any weapons or items at his disposal...nor does he amp himself via Asgard or the spiritual energy of the Asgardians.

2) Battle in Asgard; Odin limits himself to only calling Gungnir to his hand.

3) Battle in Asgard; Odin enters the Asgardian Destroyer and calls Gungnir to his hand; doesnt call upon the Asgardians spiritual energy nor does he leech off of Asgard.

4) Battle in Asagard; Odin leeches power from Asgard itself* and battles DP Tyrant without using any weapons/items or amping himself with the Asgardians.

5) Battle in Asgard; Odin leeches power from Asgard*, enters the Destroyer, and calls Gungnir to his hand; doesnt call upon the Asgardians though.

6 to 10) Odin fights exactly as would in 1 thru 5, but the fight takes place in neutral territory.

11) Odin goes all out; he withdraws all the spiritual energy of the Asgardians into himself, leeches all available power from the realm of Asgard, enters the Destroyer, and calls Gungnir to his hand. Basically, this is the 2000ft Destroyer with Gungnir in hand. Battle takes place in neutral territory.

* To give you an idea of how great an amp Odin recieves by amping off of Asgard itself, during Thor 400, Odin gave Thor his power so that Thor could battle Surter. Later (and Thor still had the Odinforce at this time), he is able to draw enough power from Asgard itself to fight Seth on equal terms...

So this amp effectively makes Odin as powerful as himself and Seth combined.

Now...pick how Tyrant does against Odin in ten attempts in each senario.

Have fun! 🙂

Tyrant has no chance of getting past 4. If however you made this more fair, and made Tyrant full powered from 4 on up, I'd lay good odds on him taking the whole pie.

@Stoic

Its not a gauntlet, so you can give your opinion on how each individual senario goes...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@Stoic

Its not a gauntlet, so you can give your opinion on how each individual senario goes...

I'm not sure if this is a can of worms that I want to get into. There's far too much to consider.

11) Odin goes all out; he withdraws all the spiritual energy of the Asgardians into himself, leeches all available power from the realm of Asgard, enters the Destroyer, and calls Gungnir to his hand. Basically, this is the 2000ft Destroyer with Gungnir in hand. Battle takes place in neutral territory.

See this one right here? ^ <------ Overkill.

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Regular Odin > Depowered Tyrant

This thread highlights one of the reasons why I think people who judge Odin's limits based on his fight with Thanos complete idiots.

He wasn't even in his full power form when he was casually knocking around the Titan.

His full powered form is when he grows to gigantic size as seen against Surtur, Seth, Cosmic Cubed/Galactus empowered Doom etc. On top of that he can draw all the power he wants from Asgardians and Asgard as Odin is Asgard. That's not even taking into account that I think Odin was toned down in that fight. Course, that's not viable evidence.

If one is just a none amped at all odin and two is a non amped out with the spear DP tyrant can take those.

Once odin begins to amp he really has no chance.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Regular Odin > Depowered Tyrant

This thread highlights one of the reasons why I think people who judge Odin's limits based on his fight with Thanos complete idiots.

He wasn't even in his full power form when he was casually knocking around the Titan.

His full powered form is when he grows to gigantic size as seen against Surtur, Seth, Cosmic Cubed/Galactus empowered Doom etc. On top of that he can draw all the power he wants from Asgardians and Asgard as Odin is Asgard. That's not even taking into account that I think Odin was toned down in that fight. Course, that's not viable evidence.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Regular Odin > Depowered Tyrant

This thread highlights one of the reasons why I think people who judge Odin's limits based on his fight with Thanos complete idiots.

He wasn't even in his full power form when he was casually knocking around the Titan.

His full powered form is when he grows to gigantic size as seen against Surtur, Seth, Cosmic Cubed/Galactus empowered Doom etc. On top of that he can draw all the power he wants from Asgardians and Asgard as Odin is Asgard. That's not even taking into account that I think Odin was toned down in that fight. Course, that's not viable evidence.

This is something I wanted to illustrate when I created this thread; Odin was capable of bringing far more firepower into the fray than he did against Thanos....

Some fools foolishly say "Oh-den w45 7ryin 2 cill Thanos!!! hE uzed h!5 SPEAR!!"

LoL....if Odin wanted Thanos dead, Odin amps up and kills Thanos very rapidly.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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This is something I wanted to illustrate when I created this thread; Odin was capable of bringing far more firepower into the fray than he did against Thanos....

Some fools foolishly say "Oh-den w45 7ryin 2 cill Thanos!!! hE uzed h!5 SPEAR!!"

LoL....if Odin wanted Thanos dead, Odin amps up and kills Thanos very rapidly.

From 4 - 11 Odin would be employing the aid of outside sources to combat Tyrant. How is this in any way seen as Odin fighting under his own steam? I don't understand how some people get off calling others idiots, or fools when not taking something so obvious into consideration. Then again it's nothing that I should not expect. It almost seems as if some people need to call another person names in order to prove a point or somehow appear to be superior. It's pathetic.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Regular Odin > Depowered Tyrant

This thread highlights one of the reasons why I think people who judge Odin's limits based on his fight with Thanos complete idiots.

He wasn't even in his full power form when he was casually knocking around the Titan.

His full powered form is when he grows to gigantic size as seen against Surtur, Seth, Cosmic Cubed/Galactus empowered Doom etc. On top of that he can draw all the power he wants from Asgardians and Asgard as Odin is Asgard. That's not even taking into account that I think Odin was toned down in that fight. Course, that's not viable evidence.

Going by this logic, Odin should have never been beaten by the Dark Gods, because of all the amplifications that he could call upon. Yet there he was, chained up like a helpless prisoner in the heart of Asgard. Tyrant would do well in scenarios 1 through 3. The rest (4 through 11), depict Odin using outside forces to amplify that which he simply does not possess under normal circumstances.

For example; if they fought in neutral space (A Forum Battle), Odin would not have Asgard, its populace, the Destroyer construct, or any other exotic power source to draw upon. Calling people idiots is such a lame way to get a point across, and sort of makes the pendulum shift back upon the person spewing this type of nonsense when not seeing all of the angles.

Odin's Powers:
Odin is capable of manipulating the Odin Force - a powerful source of energy - for a number of purposes, including energy projection; creation of illusions and force fields; levitation; molecular manipulation, communicating telepathically with other Asgardians, channeling lightning, controlling the life forces of all Asgardians, and teleportation. The character has also used the Odinpower for greater feats such as transporting the entire human race to an alternate dimension; pulling remains of distant planets towards Earth, compressing the population of an entire planet into a single being, the Mangog and taking a soul away from the arch-demon Mephisto.

In battles against opponents of similar power. Odin carries the magical spear Gungnir ("The Spear of Heaven"😉, an artifact made of the metal uru, that can be used to channel the Odin Force, it does not have a worthiness enchantment. Even without the Odin-force it can still match Thor's hammer in battle. Once a year, during the Asgardian winter, Odin must undertake the Odin-sleep for 24 hours to regenerate (and is closely guarded as he is vulnerable during this period), although he can be wakened by potent spells, such as those of Karnilla the Norn Queen.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Regular Odin > Depowered Tyrant

This thread highlights one of the reasons why I think people who judge Odin's limits based on his fight with Thanos complete idiots.

He wasn't even in his full power form when he was casually knocking around the Titan.

His full powered form is when he grows to gigantic size as seen against Surtur, Seth, Cosmic Cubed/Galactus empowered Doom etc. On top of that he can draw all the power he wants from Asgardians and Asgard as Odin is Asgard. That's not even taking into account that I think Odin was toned down in that fight. Course, that's not viable evidence.

Bah...bah I say. It's not cheating for Odin to boost himself with fellow Asgardian power. It's an amp sure but all Skyfathers amp during fights.

This thread raises a nice point about that Thanos fight. Is there really a doubt that Odin could have amped himself to his tiptop supersized form and just recreated the Thanos/Galactus semifight where Galactus picked up Thanos in his hand and could have crunched him. Anyway it's my opinion that Odin wasn't going fullout and really trying to kill Thanos anyway. Otherwise he easily could have while Thanos sloooowly staggered to his feet.

Originally posted by Kasper Gutman
This thread raises a nice point about that Thanos fight. Is there really a doubt that Odin could have amped himself to his tiptop supersized form and just recreated the Thanos/Galactus semifight where Galactus picked up Thanos in his hand and could have crunched him. Anyway it's my opinion that Odin wasn't going fullout and really trying to kill Thanos anyway. Otherwise he easily could have while Thanos sloooowly staggered to his feet.

We also can't assume he was going all out either. He was asking him to yield and giving him casual looking slaps.

@Stoic

1st off, the "fools" comment wasnt directed at you, but at the two "usual" characters here who blindly defend Thanos no matter what...

However, if you too, believe that Odin couldnt have killed Thanos during their famous fight, then I BEG you to reread Warlock and the Infinity Watch #25...

It is my contention that from the point that Odin had Thanos on his knees to the point to where Thanos finally stands, that Odin...if he truly wanted Thanos dead...had far more than enough time to drive Gungnir through the back of his neck and decapitate him.

Read the comic; if took SEVEN PANELS for Thanos to fully get back to his feet. Other than CIS, what prevents Odin from killing Thanos during that sequence!? Not a dam thing...

Now after reading that, if you still arent convinced that Odin couldnt have killed him, I will respect your belief (and I respect you as a poster btw, as you are insightful, thoughtful, and can be reasoned with...unlike others here), but in this event atleast give me a logical explanation as to why an Odin that wanted Thanos dead did not kill him right then and there...

Hopefully after reviewing that sequence again, you'll come to see that Odin did not want Thanos dead...otherwise, Odin allowing him to get back up, opposed to killing him right then and there, makes no sense whatsoever.

2nd...

As pertains why Odin lost to the Dark Gods and why Odin doesnt go all out all the time, its called CIS; in a comic characters are beholden to the story and its plot...inaddition, its the writers job to make the comic interesting and entertaining.

As a result, Odin (and many other characters) never go all out all the time as it wouldnt make for a good read...even in situations where they are going to lose, you still dont see many characters giving it their all.

Galactus, for example, could pull out the Ultimate Nullifier every single time he faces someone and end the conflict immediately...but he doesnt...why? Beacuse it wouldnt make for a good read...

Odin doesnt go all out against everyone that steps up to him for the same reason; CIS...and so, he ends up losing to opponents that he wouldnt lose to if he went all out (just like virtually every other hero out there).

Now keep in mind (and this is my whole point from the get-go) that just because he typically wont do something, doesnt mean he cant do something; its my belief that Odin could crush Thanos if he really wants him dead Thanos...

Thus Odin could have amped up like I described in my above posts and beaten Thanos very rapidly...by that same token, Odin could have killed Thanos during Warlock and the Infinity Watch #25 without all those extravagant amps...

As for the fighting in neutral territory against Tyrant, he could acquire the amps/gear prior to meeting Tyrant in the neutral combat zone...couldnt he?

Inaddition, as was rightly pointed out by Rage, Odin is Asgard; his power created it, shaped it, and empowers it and the Asgardians that populate it...

Thus you saying that Odin using Asgard and/or the Asgardians to amp up constitutes an "outside force" is not at all accurate...your statement is correct as pertains to the Destroyer however.

Lord of Blunder of & Rage are up to their usual tricks yet again... Lets get these facts straight before we continue...

1. You use Odin getting bigger as a sign of him not holding back and going in ass kicking mode... Okay cool.. lets go with that.. Yet one of the examples you used to illustrate this.. His fight with Doom with Galactus power... Odin was promptly dealt with very very easily. He was pretty much one shot... Yet this is the example you choose to use? Use Galactus one shotting him (in his amplied Giant Sized State) when Dp Tyrant already punked this same Galactus. Horrible example and further proves that Dp Tyrant is above Odin in power.

2. Lord of Blunder and his typical dumb posts... Now it's blunder's contention that Odin could've kiled Thanos.. lol.. This is based on the fact that he let Thanos get up and didn't run his spear through him.. LOL. That is honestly the best you could do blunder? You see, this is a common theme in comics.. movies.. many genres you twit. People knock someone down and to the ground.. Yet in the movies.. comics.. they rarely grap the pipe laying there on the ground to beat him further.. nor do they start kicking this person on the ground. Many times we see comic book characters knock someone back or down.. and proceed to let them up. We don't take blunders stance that ooo they could've killed them... No blunder we don't do that do we. Only blunderous people like you would come up with such a stance. Just because someone knocks someone to the ground and doesn't immediatly go for the kill shot.. doesn't mean they could've.. Talk about a fallacious stance.

3. Thanos felt who was more powerful and you guys just can't get past that fact at all. Thanos was never in any fear for his life nor had any thoughts of leaving... This was an unprepped and a Thanos who didn't even want to fight Odin. Yet had no fear for his life what-so-ever. Now compare that to how the Tyrant fight went... In MANY LESS panels.. with a Thanos that WAS PREPPED for Tyrant... a Thanos that people contend WAS AMPED... Thanos had to flee for his life in many less panels. He even straight out said if he stayed.. Tyrant would kill him. This was a prepped/amped Thanos who was looking to fight Tyrant. Huge Huge differences, yet those difference paint a very clear picture who Tyrant thought was more powerful.

4. As I said, please point out to any 8 comic sequence.. where Odin dealt with the following people or similar level people... Please list for me any vs. sequence where Odin accomplished what Tyrant did in beating... SS, Glads, BRB, J.O.H. Gany, Morg, Terrax,. Thanos & finally someone on the level of a well fed and prepped Galactus.. Please list for me any run Odin has had where he dealt with such forces with ease.. You won't find it, and that is a major problem for this side.

5. Lastly, I wan't to dispell this notion that the only reason Tyrant won was because he used Galactus tech against him.. This is totally and completly false... Galactus realized the threat and power level Tyrant is on.. In comparison.. when he's dealt or talked with Odin.. He talks down to him like his an insect.. Well of course he would.. someone with Galactus power.. one shot him with ease. Anyways... before Tyrant used Galactus tech against him... Galactus already backed down from Tyrant the first time they met... He let tyrant take HIS herald from him because the feared their fight WOULD DESTROY GALAXIES and he didn't want to fight then. That speaks to exactly what Galactus thought about Tyrant and how powerful he was. He said THEY would destroy Galaxies via collateral damage.. not even direct blasts.. that is some heavy hitting going on there. Further, usually Galactus is very demeaning when dealing with people and rarely ever feeds before a battle... Yet against Tyrant he specifically fed on a rich planet and said he hadn't felt this good in a long long time. He prepped and fed just to fight Tyrant. That speaks volumes about what he thought of Tyrant.

All this make it clear... Tyrant is plain and simply above Odin.. Period.

Originally posted by Kasper Gutman
We also can't assume he was going all out either. He was asking him to yield and giving him casual looking slaps.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Lord of Blunder of & Rage are up to their usual tricks yet again... Lets get these facts straight before we continue...

1. You use Odin getting bigger as a sign of him not holding back and going in ass kicking mode... Okay cool.. lets go with that.. Yet one of the examples you used to illustrate this.. His fight with Doom with Galactus power... Odin was promptly dealt with very very easily. He was pretty much one shot... Yet this is the example you choose to use? Use Galactus one shotting him (in his amplied Giant Sized State) when Dp Tyrant already punked this same Galactus. Horrible example and further proves that Dp Tyrant is above Odin in power.

2. Lord of Blunder and his typical dumb posts... Now it's blunder's contention that Odin could've kiled Thanos.. lol.. This is based on the fact that he let Thanos get up and didn't run his spear through him.. LOL. That is honestly the best you could do blunder? You see, this is a common theme in comics.. movies.. many genres you twit. People knock someone down and to the ground.. Yet in the movies.. comics.. they rarely grap the pipe laying there on the ground to beat him further.. nor do they start kicking this person on the ground. Many times we see comic book characters knock someone back or down.. and proceed to let them up. We don't take blunders stance that ooo they could've killed them... No blunder we don't do that do we. Only blunderous people like you would come up with such a stance. Just because someone knocks someone to the ground and doesn't immediatly go for the kill shot.. doesn't mean they could've.. Talk about a fallacious stance.

3. Thanos felt who was more powerful and you guys just can't get past that fact at all. Thanos was never in any fear for his life nor had any thoughts of leaving... This was an unprepped and a Thanos who didn't even want to fight Odin. Yet had no fear for his life what-so-ever. Now compare that to how the Tyrant fight went... In MANY LESS panels.. with a Thanos that WAS PREPPED for Tyrant... a Thanos that people contend WAS AMPED... Thanos had to flee for his life in many less panels. He even straight out said if he stayed.. Tyrant would kill him. This was a prepped/amped Thanos who was looking to fight Tyrant. Huge Huge differences, yet those difference paint a very clear picture who Tyrant thought was more powerful.

4. As I said, please point out to any 8 comic sequence.. where Odin dealt with the following people or similar level people... Please list for me any vs. sequence where Odin accomplished what Tyrant did in beating... SS, Glads, BRB, J.O.H. Gany, Morg, Terrax,. Thanos & finally someone on the level of a well fed and prepped Galactus.. Please list for me any run Odin has had where he dealt with such forces with ease.. You won't find it, and that is a major problem for this side.

5. Lastly, I wan't to dispell this notion that the only reason Tyrant won was because he used Galactus tech against him.. This is totally and completly false... Galactus realized the threat and power level Tyrant is on.. In comparison.. when he's dealt or talked with Odin.. He talks down to him like his an insect.. Well of course he would.. someone with Galactus power.. one shot him with ease. Anyways... before Tyrant used Galactus tech against him... Galactus already backed down from Tyrant the first time they met... He let tyrant take HIS herald from him because the feared their fight WOULD DESTROY GALAXIES and he didn't want to fight then. That speaks to exactly what Galactus thought about Tyrant and how powerful he was. He said THEY would destroy Galaxies via collateral damage.. not even direct blasts.. that is some heavy hitting going on there. Further, usually Galactus is very demeaning when dealing with people and rarely ever feeds before a battle... Yet against Tyrant he specifically fed on a rich planet and said he hadn't felt this good in a long long time. He prepped and fed just to fight Tyrant. That speaks volumes about what he thought of Tyrant.

All this make it clear... Tyrant is plain and simply above Odin.. Period.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Beating a bunch of mid- high herald people isn't something beyond Odin hell he would do it in one panel if he felt like it. Tyrant ABSORBED Galactus' energy because he's basically his seed. Tyrant is no where near Normal Galactus' level powerwise he's just his weakness and he's plenty resourceful using tech+absorbing energy from daddy+decreasing his size led to him looking so dominant. Put Tyrant against Odin and i doubt he would start absorbing Odins energy blasts 😬