DP Tyrant runs the Odin challenge....

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
WIth the gear... destroyer.. spear etc etc.. that would be a much tougher fight and I might give a slight majority to Odin. The drawing off of Asgard.. as Rage points out... that is already part of his normal powerset. Asgard is part of the Odin force.. it's already apart of him... that isn't anything special. Point is, when Odin grew to HUGE sizes to fight Doom with Galactus power... he was promptly ONE SHOT with ease.. EASE.... That tells me all I need to know about who wins a straight up fight.

What do you mean part of his normal power set? Just because Odin grows to giant sized levels does not mean his drawing the power he gave to Asgard. That simply means that Odin is reaching his full powered state.

Odin divided the Odin Force into three main sources. One source being the Asgardian dimension. The second source being the Asgardians and the third source being the energy he contains inside of him. When he grows giant sized, he simply accesses greater quantities of the energy stored inside of him as I understand.

Untrue, Odin was not one shotted by Doom. Doom did not only posses the power of Galactus. IRCC, in that story either Richards or Odin stated that Odin equaled/rivaled Galactus in power.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Your not understanding though... Odin IS asgard.. that IS his power already not an amp. If it was an outside powersource you would have a poing, but it's not. Asgard is there and in place because of the Odin Power. Which is why that scene made no sense.. If he gave all his Odin power to his son... Asgard would be no more. He gave "some" of his Odin power to his son.. and took back some of his power from Asgard in order to fight seth.. You're further not understanding.. that Odin already grew to that size once before to fight Doom/Galactus as was promptly and easily one shot. Growing to that size and being one shot by Galactus only proves how far below Galactus Odin is, not that he can compete with someone Galactus was afraid of facing and ended up getting punked by.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I'm not ignoring anything, nor do I believe drawing on asgard makes Odin as powerful as himself and seth combined. You see, as you agreed asgard power is on loan from Odin.. a FRACTION of his total power not power equal to himself. Think about this logically Murder… As on panel evidence confirms asgard is kept around by a FRACTION of his power. Yet, you're trying to say that this fraction.. someone when Odin take it back… miraculously turns into a power source equal to Odin. That makes no logically sense and I honestly hope you can see how this argument makes no sense and in fact isn't true. Drawing on this power and getting it back doesn't in anyway shape or form make one as powerful as odin.

I don't understand the problem.

Odin gave the entire Odin Force to Thor. All the Odin Force he wielded personally. He then drew power from the energy he placed in Asgard, giving him the power to rival Seth. In other words, Odin + energy in Asgard = Odin + Seth.

Not a difficult concept to understand.

Where does it say Asgard is kept around by only a fraction of Odin's power? I'm curious. Or did you just make this up?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Now, of course I feel DP Tyrant could beat an Odin that grows to Gigantic sizes.. We've seen Galactus ONE SHOT this same Odin. Do you know how easy you beat someone if you one shot them? Look no further than Odin one shotting surfer and drax like they were insects. That is what Galactus did to Odin. Shoot Galactus when he's been around Odin talk to him in a condescending and demeaning tone. Which of course makes sense if he dwarf's Odin power. Now, compare that to how he acted when confronted with DP Tyrant…. He feared galaxies being destroyed just by their fight and the collateral damage. He backed down and didn't even fight him. He decided to prep and feed just to fight him. Now, do you see why I keep bringing up this very relevant point?

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't have time for a long reply so I'll make this quick.

Outside forces? His tapping into his own power. All the Asgardians are empowered by a piece of the Odin Force. The are part of Odin.

The Odin Force also empowers the Asgardian dimension.

He'd be calling on power that is rightfully his.

The Dark Gods ambushed him right after he defeated Seth, all of his people were enslaved prisoners, Asgard had been corrupted, mutated and his power was constantly being drained. That is simply a possible in story explanation. The writer might have simply chose to ignore Odin’s possibilities.

I do not see why he could not simply draw the power from Asgard or the Asgardian's. And if you claim that he needs to be in the vicinity, teleportation is a simple goal for Odin. I find it silly that anyone would argue this with someone on the level of Odin but you never know.

What’s this supposed to prove besides the fact that you rely on bios? I don’t recall him having the spear in any of his large battles with Surtur, Seth etc.

He had the Scepter of Power during the first stage of his battle with Surtur during Walter's run but that's all I can remember. No Spear.

Rage Rage Rage.. You asked me where I got this from... Look NO further than what you posted. I mean honestly, does your need to argue with me extend to me even agreeing with you, only for you to say.. where did you get that from LOL LOL. It's clear it's a small portion by the scans and by common sense. Now lets go over the problems though...

You said Odin gave ALL of his Odin power to Thor... Of course if that was true, Asgard wouldn't even be around. As we know, Odin sustains Asgard on the plane that it's in. So if ALL of his power was truly going to Thor and him fighting Surtur how was Asgard still around? To go further.. as your scans show and you admitted.. it's a small portion of his power... SMALL to use your words. YET YET when he takes back that same SMALL power.. that somehow transforms into ALL of Odin's power LOL. Were you guys absent the day common sense was passed out? If give only a SMALL portion of his power to asgard.. when getting it back it doesn't turn into a being equal to ALL of Odin power. My God some people are just that damn slow or stupid.

^Hypocrisy 😱

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Rage Rage Rage.. You asked me where I got this from... Look NO further than what you posted. I mean honestly, does your need to argue with me extend to me even agreeing with you, only for you to say.. where did you get that from LOL LOL. It's clear it's a small portion by the scans and by common sense. Now lets go over the problems though...

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Do you not know how to read? I said that a portion of his power empowers every Asgardian. You're arguing about Asgard. Their is an important distinction between the two.

And just because a portion empowers each Asgardian, that doesn't mean that the totality of the power placed in the Asgardians is a fraction of Odin's total power. 😐

An Asgardian = A tiny portion of the Odin Force =/= All Asgardians

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You said Odin gave ALL of his Odin power to Thor... Of course if that was true, Asgard wouldn't even be around. As we know, Odin sustains Asgard on the plane that it's in. So if ALL of his power was truly going to Thor and him fighting Surtur how was Asgard still around? To go further.. as your scans show and you admitted.. it's a small portion of his power... SMALL to use your words. YET YET when he takes back that same SMALL power.. that somehow transforms into ALL of Odin's power LOL. Were you guys absent the day common sense was passed out? If give only a SMALL portion of his power to asgard.. when getting it back it doesn't turn into a being equal to ALL of Odin power. My God some people are just that damn slow or stupid.

Odin gave all of the Odin Power he contained within his being to Thor. The Odin Force contained within Asgard and the Odin Force empowering the Asgardian's are different wells of power. At least from what I understand. I explained that in the previous post. He can choose to draw on all of the power contained within Asgard, all the power contained within the Asgardians, or both at the same time. Each power source is part of Odin, their part of his own power, but he doesn't actively draw on them unless he has to. Because if he did the Asgardians would enter a death like state and Asgard would start to die.

Lulz at you mocking me though. Needed a laugh.

Here are the facts... a PORTION of Odin's power is used to empower asgard and asgardians in general. A PORTION... Now we all know wht portion means right? So it's only a portion of his power that does this... yet getting back this SAME portion makes go from a PORTION to a power source EQUAL to Odin? LULZ LULZ... YOu can't be serious can you...

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Here are the facts... a PORTION of Odin's power is used to empower asgard and asgardians in general. A PORTION... Now we all know wht portion means right? So it's only a portion of his power that does this... yet getting back this SAME portion makes go from a PORTION to a power source EQUAL to Odin? LULZ LULZ... YOu can't be serious can you...

Where the hell are you getting the idea that only a portion of Odin's power is used to empower Asgard and the Asgardians? Where are this facts coming from? That's my question. You can't just make shit up on the fly.

A portion of the Odin Power empowers each of the Asgardian's as far as I can tell. Combine all the energy in the Asgardian's and it's clearly not going to be a small portion. Not the majority of the total Odin Power by any means but not a small portion.

For example, the energy that is used to give the Asgardian's their special powers alone plus the energy contained within Odin is enough power for Odin to kick the elder Enchanter around in a Universe spanning battle. The elder Enchanter also withdrew power from the two Enchanters on Earth who I'd say are at Trans level from what I recall. No telling how powerful the Elder one is.

And we know the energy contained in the Asgardian dimension is substantial as it was able to amp up a depowered Odin up to Seth fighting levels.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where the hell are you getting the idea that only a portion of Odin's power is used to empower Asgard and the Asgardians? Where are this facts coming from? That's my question. You can't just make shit up on the fly.

A portion of the Odin Power empowers each of the Asgardian's as far as I can tell. Combine all the energy in the Asgardian's and it's clearly not going to be a small portion. Not the majority of the total Odin Power by any means but not a small portion.

For example, the energy that is used to give the Asgardian's their special powers alone plus the energy contained within Odin is enough power for Odin to kick the elder Enchanter around in a Universe spanning battle. The elder Enchanter also withdrew power from the two Enchanters on Earth who I'd say are at Trans level from what I recall. No telling how powerful the Elder one is.

And we know the energy contained in the Asgardian dimension is substantial as it was able to amp up a depowered Odin up to Seth fighting levels.

look at ur quote here which i agree with

"A portion of the Odin Power empowers each of the Asgardian's as far as I can tell. Combine all the energy in the Asgardian's and it's clearly not going to be a small portion. Not the majority of the total Odin Power by any means but not a small portion."

now please explain how getting this same amount back makes one as powerful as all of odins power?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
look at ur quote here which i agree with

"A portion of the Odin Power empowers each of the Asgardian's as far as I can tell. Combine all the energy in the Asgardian's and it's clearly not going to be a small portion. Not the majority of the total Odin Power by any means but not a small portion."

now please explain how getting this same amount back makes one as powerful as all of odins power?

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Are you arguing that drawing the energy from the Asgardian's can't possibly equal the total power of the Odin Force? Of course it can't.

I think it's partially my fault. I use the term Odin Force to represent both the totality of the Odin Force and Odin's personal well.

The total Odin Force = The power contained within Odin(1) + The power contained within the Asgardians(2) + The power contained within Asgard(3)

Each three of those wells makes up the totality of the Odin Power. The Odin that we see on a day to day basis relies solely on (1) for energy. And even then he doesn't access the total power of (1) without assuming his full powered form.

In his fight with Seth, Odin transferred all of (1) into Thor. He then drew on (3) to combat Seth.

Do you understand?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Are you arguing that drawing the energy from the Asgardian's can't possibly equal the total power of the Odin Force? Of course it can't.

I think it's partially my fault. I use the term Odin Force to represent both the totality of the Odin Force and Odin's personal well.

The total Odin Force = The power contained within Odin(1) + The power contained within the Asgardians(2) + The power contained within Asgard(3)

Each three of those wells makes up the totality of the Odin Power. The Odin that we see on a day to day basis relies solely on (1) for energy. And even then he doesn't access the total power of (1) without assuming his full powered form.

In his fight with Seth, Odin transferred all of (1) into Thor. He then drew on (3) to combat Seth.

Do you understand?

Substitute the name "Odin" with the name "Thanos" and Thanosi would have understood this the 1st time it was explained to him...effortlessly.

Hell he can solve extremely high level calculus; you just gotta convince him he's solving for "Thanos" opposed to whatever variable the original problem required to be figured out...

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Are you arguing that drawing the energy from the Asgardian's can't possibly equal the total power of the Odin Force? Of course it can't.

I think it's partially my fault. I use the term Odin Force to represent both the totality of the Odin Force and Odin's personal well.

The total Odin Force = The power contained within Odin(1) + The power contained within the Asgardians(2) + The power contained within Asgard(3)

Each three of those wells makes up the totality of the Odin Power. The Odin that we see on a day to day basis relies solely on (1) for energy. And even then he doesn't access the total power of (1) without assuming his full powered form.

In his fight with Seth, Odin transferred all of (1) into Thor. He then drew on (3) to combat Seth.

Do you understand?

That still doesn't fit... regardless of this fact.. as you admit... Odin only uses a PORTION of his total Odin Force when it comes to Asgard and the Asgardians. No matter how you slice it.. it's still a potion.. So how then does a portion going back to him.. make it his total odin force? That is what is being claimed here.. That a portion of Odin force is enough to combat seth and thus this said portion is equal to seth. As you can see, and as you admit this makes no logical sense. If it only takes a portion of his power to empower asgard and the asgardians.. how does getting that portion back make him now back to his full power. As we know Odin and Seth are virtually equals... Thus the claim was the getting said portion back.. brought Odin to his usual levels.. That isn't possible. Do you understand what was claimed and how that doesn't make logic sense?

tyrant fails

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That still doesn't fit...

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How do you not understand something so simple? You either have a diagnosed learning ability (Do you? Serious question) or are purposefully being ignorant. This is like Starscream level stupid.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
regardless of this fact.. as you admit... Odin only uses a PORTION of his total Odin Force when it comes to Asgard and the Asgardians. No matter how you slice it.. it's still a potion.. So how then does a portion going back to him.. make it his total odin force?

Where does it say that Odin only uses a portion of the total Odin Force to empower Asgard and the Asgardians?

Give me a reference. Do not dodge the question. Or I will consider it to be trolling and act accordingly.

We know that a fair bit of energy is used to empower Asgard (Equivalent to the power of Seth at bare minimum) and a small portion empowers each Asgardian individually. You're trying to claim only a portion of the total Odin Force is used to empower Asgard and the Asgardians so you can call foul on the examples presented as it shatters your already fractured view on Odin's power limits.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That is what is being claimed here.. That a portion of Odin force is enough to combat seth and thus this said portion is equal to seth. As you can see, and as you admit this makes no logical sense. If it only takes a portion of his power to empower asgard and the asgardians.. how does getting that portion back make him now back to his full power. As we know Odin and Seth are virtually equals... Thus the claim was the getting said portion back.. brought Odin to his usual levels.. That isn't possible. Do you understand what was claimed and how that doesn't make logic sense?

Stop putting words in my mouth. I never did anything of the sort. I said a small portion of the Odin Force empowers each Asgardian which is completely different from what your claiming. Your claiming that: The Odin Force in all Asgardians + The Odin Force in Asgard = A small portion of Odin Force. If you provided a reference, you'd at least have something to base your argument on.

I'm not wasting my time explaining it again. Your not worth it. I gave ample explanation in the previous post. So:

Where does it say that Odin only uses a portion of the total Odin Force to empower Asgard and the Asgardians?

you're truly slow and incompetent. So tell me, you're saying odin uses ALL of his Odin force to empower asgard and the asgardians? You idiot that isn't how it works... How the F would he use all his power to empower asgard and leaving him with no Odin force left. You ignoramus that isn't how it works and YOU ADMITTED it was a PORTION. YOU SAID IT WAS A PORTION and obviously not all. SO THEN TWIT.. how does giving a portion to the asgardians and asgard.. COME BACK AS THE FULL ODIN FORCE CAPABLE of combating Seth.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
you're truly slow and incompetent. So tell me, you're saying odin uses ALL of his Odin force to empower asgard and the asgardians? You idiot that isn't how it works... How the F would he use all his power to empower asgard and leaving him with no Odin force left. You ignoramus that isn't how it works and YOU ADMITTED it was a PORTION. YOU SAID IT WAS A PORTION and obviously not all. SO THEN TWIT.. how does giving a portion to the asgardians and asgard.. COME BACK AS THE FULL ODIN FORCE CAPABLE of combating Seth.

Why are u using such language? u can debate without it 🙂

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
you're truly slow and incompetent. So tell me, you're saying odin uses ALL of his Odin force to empower asgard and the asgardians? You idiot that isn't how it works... How the F would he use all his power to empower asgard and leaving him with no Odin force left. You ignoramus that isn't how it works and YOU ADMITTED it was a PORTION. YOU SAID IT WAS A PORTION and obviously not all. SO THEN TWIT.. how does giving a portion to the asgardians and asgard.. COME BACK AS THE FULL ODIN FORCE CAPABLE of combating Seth.

Yea, so you're obviously just trolling at this point. I already clarified all of the bullshit you stated more than once. It's like your copying and pasting your posts. I should report you but I dislike doing so or I'll just stop replying.

I'm done. Answer the question and we'll talk.