Originally posted by Snafu the Great
My bad. Shoulda been more specific. It's Best Villain in a action/RPG game.
In an RPG game? That title would belong to Deus from Xenogears (notable for holding God captive within his physical form and giving birth to humanity on the local planet of the Ahnenerbe in order to bring about the restoration of its power, and essentially being responsible for the activities of -The Mother-, Miang -The Complement-, Cain, and the entire Gazel Ministry, as well as the general nature of humanity). The being that essentially shaped the profound story of Xenogears.
Deus created a world and humanity that mirrored the realisation and resolution of the Oedipus Complex and the basic desire to "return to one", was able to trap -The Wave Existence- within the Zohar, and spawned the eternal recurrence of contact between Cain and Abel -The Contact- and -The Wave Existence- that would only be resolved by the union of -The Contact- and -The Mother- of the planet, essentially inexorably linking the resolution of the Oedipus Complex with the eternal recurrence and with the return of The Wave Existence to the higher demension "where everything was one". The Gazel Ministry, Cain, -The Mother-, and Miang, each one a villain that would otherwise qualify as potential best VG villains of all time if not for deu's existence, were essentially extensions of its will, and humanity, which Deus gave birth to, gave realisation to villains like Krelian, Grahf, Id, and Stein who would also qualify, as well as the Solaris and Ethos organisations which as representative bodies would also. What has harbinger done?
An article on the subject actually: http://guardian.leamonde.net/analysis/antran_oedipal.shtml
Originally posted by NCRotCA
[B]Deus created a world and humanity that mirrored the realisation and resolution of the Oedipus Complex and the basic desire to "return to one", was able to trap -The Wave Existence- within the Zohar, and spawned the eternal recurrence of contact between Cain and Abel -The Contact- and -The Wave Existence- that would only be resolved by the union of -The Contact- and -The Mother- of the planet, essentially inexorably linking the resolution of the Oedipus Complex with the eternal recurrence and with the return of The Wave Existence to the higher demension "where everything was one". The Gazel Ministry, Cain, -The Mother-, and Miang, each one a villain that would otherwise qualify as potential best VG villains of all time if not for deu's existence, were essentially extensions of its will, and humanity, which Deus gave birth to, gave realisation to villains like Krelian, Grahf, Id, and Stein who would also qualify, as well as the Solaris and Ethos organisations which as representative bodies would also.
...I did not understand any of that.
What has harbinger done?
Other than mind control a species to capture thousands of humans to liquify alive and have their mass sucked into a giant robot via tubes just to fuel it? Nothing.
If this thread was which villain of 2010 performed the most gruesome plot, Harbinger would win for sure.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
...I did not understand any of that.Other than mind control a species to capture thousands of humans to liquify alive and have their mass sucked into a giant robot via tubes just to fuel it? Nothing.
If this thread was which villain of 2010 performed the most gruesome plot, Harbinger would win for sure.
Sounds very generic, and incredibly lame.