Originally posted by Lord LucienApparition, prolly not. Dunno about portkeys.
Which they can't.And I doubt they can produce a shield charm powerful enough to protect them from an wormhole that rips apart planets.
I know, that's why I said "unless." A protego can, however, bounce dark magic back on the caster, but the Force is not magic, so, yeah.
Re: Re: Darth Sidious (Palpatine) vs Snape
Originally posted by RobtardThis post is all that's required.
This really needed?Most posters' response: Sidious uses his Force enhanced reaction-time and Force-precog to attack first/kill.
The HP Fanboy(s) response: Snape stomps! Aburrito! Smegmatorium! Fellatio!
/repeat
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthNo. Apparition instant, no force attack is instant. This is fact and you must accept this.
Sidious decapitated Snape with a force push/pulled Sabre earlier in the single numbered pages.RJ ignores this.
Here, once again:
FF to :43. Harry casts sectumsempra. In less than one damn second, Snape turns, blocks it, casts a spell of his own, and hits Harry with it.
Snape's reaction time is faster than any Jedi feat (WHILE CASTING FORCE ATTACKS, NOT WHILE IN LIGHTSABER COMBAT.)
This vid, posted many moons ago by me, ended the thread. But no, only DDM and I can accept it.
RJ, youre still not getting the Pre-cog thing.
And youre forgetting that Jedi reflexes are way faster than human ones.
The second the Sidious sees so much as a scrotum hair twitch, conforming what he saw in Precog, the wizard would be incapacitated or dead.
And Snape is dead, has been dead from the beginning and will [i]continue to be dead,[/i] like he is in HP. (Except he still had his head, in those movies, obviously)
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthNah, I understand the Precog fine. What YOU don't seem to understand is that precog is easily overwhelmed. What YOU don't seem to understand is that Snape casts spells faster than Sidious casts force attacks. What you don't get is that apparition is instant, while NO force attack is. Snape escapes each force attack in his sleep.RJ, youre still not getting the Pre-cog thing.
And youre forgetting that Jedi reflexes are way faster than human ones.
The second the Sidious sees so much as a scrotum hair twitch, conforming what he saw in Precog, the wizard would be incapacitated or dead.And [b]Snape is dead
, has been dead from the beginning and will [i]continue to be dead,[/i] like he is in HP. (Except he still had his head, in those movies, obviously) [/B]
Pay attention this time:
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
For everyone on earth but RJ, evidently.
O'RLY?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Good post. I'm so glad I'm not on the Force User's side, this time.I USED TO think that the force users would be more than fast enough until I saw Snape do that ultra fast block and cast thing.
Dumbledore is faster and more powerful than Snape, as is Voldemort. Is Snape the 3rd most powerful duelist in the series, though? I do not know...but since we know he's killed by Volde, we know he's at least weaker/slower than Volde and Dumbles kept right up with Volde at the ministry of magic duel so we can only assume the the top tiers are Dumbles and Volde with Snape coming in right behind.
As far as Harry Beating Volde? That comes down to Volde getting too arrogant and wanting to torture Harry instead of death spelling him...so that's not really proving that Harry is a better duelist than any of them, it shows shows Volde's over-confidence.
So, more on topic, I do not see any G-Level canon force user beating the top 3 duelists from Harry Potter because they are just as fast if not faster than any of the Jedi in reaction time. I do, however, see most of the other wizards getting diced to pieces by some of the top tier force users up to maybe Sirius Black levels of Wizards. Then it becomes very gray at who would win.
What do you guys of the MVF think? Agree? Disagree? Agree partially?
This thread was ended when I posted this:
Originally posted by Rogue JediOverly optimistic appraisal.....Hmm.....Let's think about that.......I have proven that wizard apparition is instantaneous. I have proven that wizards can cast spells while being force choked. I have proven that wizards of Snape's caliber are faster casting spells than any force user is casting force attacks. What else is there? Wizards are faster, have far stronger powers, have MORE powers. See, when someone is faster, stronger, and has more powers, they usually win.
Precog.....K.......Where was Yoda's precog when Sidious blasted him into the wall? Where was Sidious's precog when Yoda returned the favor by force pushing him over his desk? Where was Obi Wan's precog when Dooku force held then threw him across the room? Where was Vader's precog when Solo blitzed his ass at Yavin? Where was Palpatine's precog when Vader rose up and killed him? Shall I go on?
Now, here are the attacks Sidious has at his disposal,and the ways Snape counters them:
1. Force choke:
A: Snape can speak in force choke. He death
spells him.
B: Snape can cast non verbal spells.
C: Snape can apparate away.
D: Snape is faster casting magic spells, so he won't
even need A. B or C.2: Force push/pull:
A: Snape apparates out of it.
B: Snape is faster casting magic spells, he won't
need A.3: Force lightning:
A: Snape is faster casting magic spells, He casts
avada kedavra before the force lightning
reaches him.4: Sidious using his lightsaber:
A: Don't make me laugh. Apparition. Death spell.
Have I forgotten anything? Yeah, thought not.
Actually, its not easily overwhelmed at all. 🙂
And what makes you think that the wizards'll be able to endanger the Jedi as much as millions of blaster bolts all flying about at them simultaneously?
(A situation that most Jedi were calm against.)
The Jedi re taught to clear their minds of distraction.
If anyones gonna shit their pants on the battlefield and lose their head, its gonna be Snape, not Palps. 🙂
As soon as the fight starts, Snape instantly apparatus to china.
Right as Snape disappears, the force lightning+force push+force choke that Sidious cast instantly as the fight began, passes right through nothing as Snape is no longer there.
As Snape orders some flied lice, he casually states, "accio Sidious' balls". While Sidious bleeds to death in about 5 minutes (no kolto tanks around), Snape repeatedly casts expelliarmous on Sidious' balls and laughs as they bounce of the faces of the chi kneeeeeeez.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Unlikely, since Snape has no head. 🙂
Cause Harry bit it off during his "lessons."
😖hifty:
See what I did there.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Maybe if they find it, it can be cleaned up Predator-style and used as a new Wok...?
Snape doesn't need that :wand" in order to perform, though. 😄
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthClear their minds of distractions? Then they failed miserably at it.
Actually, its not easily overwhelmed at all. 🙂And what makes you think that the wizards'll be able to endanger the Jedi as much as millions of blaster bolts all flying about at them simultaneously?
(A situation that most Jedi were calm against.)The Jedi re taught to clear their minds of distraction.
If anyones gonna shit their pants on the battlefield and lose their head, its gonna be Snape, not Palps. 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon😂
As soon as the fight starts, Snape instantly apparatus to china.Right as Snape disappears, the force lightning+force push+force choke that Sidious cast instantly as the fight began, passes right through nothing as Snape is no longer there.
As Snape orders some flied lice, he casually states, "accio Sidious' balls". While Sidious bleeds to death in about 5 minutes (no kolto tanks around), Snape repeatedly casts expelliarmous on Sidious' balls and laughs as they bounce of the faces of the chi kneeeeeeez.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Clear their minds of distractions? Then they failed miserably at it.
The ones who were being clouded by the swing of the force bias that won't be an issue here..? Sure. But I noticed plenty of HP characters never made it. Snape included.
Well.....I guess you can console yourself in the dual knowledges that:
A) He wouldn't have suffered. The sabre went through his neck real quick.
B) At least hes actually used to being dead.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The ones who were being clouded by the swing of the force bias that won't be an issue here..? Sure. But I noticed plenty of HP characters never made it. Snape included.Well.....I guess you can console yourself in the dual knowledges that:
A) He wouldn't have suffered. The sabre went through his neck real quick.
B) At least hes actually used to being dead.
Mhm, lots of death in both sagas. And?
I was asking you that same question, effectively..
Snape succumbs to massive force attacks/lightsabre blows to the neck because he is just human. Wizards're killed more easily than SW characters using the force, as they lack the extra damage soak that being a force user allows.
Look at the various falls, smashes, blows endured by Jedi and Sith which would have killed a mere human or at the least, paralysed his ass.