Make it full potential Storm as opposed to Rogue Storm who is just a mad out of control Storm and the team can do it. Storms potential goes in two directions, her magic potential and the full potential of her mutant powers. She has the potential to become a sorceress on par with Belasco or an elemental energy being. If you use either one of those Storms then the team could win a few.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
There is no version of Storm that is a match or threat to Thor.
This is a team fight.
Furthermore a Storm that has mystical powers on par with Belasco and is at the same time an elemental energy being is very much a threat to Thor. That Storm combined with Full potential Iceman could very well defeat Thor.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
thats what i mean, storm when she became the embodiment of actual storm
Rogue Storm isnt full potential Storm. Thats Storm lashing out with her powers without holding back.
Full potential Storm is Storm as a sorceress, Storm as an elemental energy being actually composed of lightning.
As an elemental Storm better get a serious boost in power to become a threat to Thor. Storm gaining an elemntal form that can more easily control the weather doesn't cut it. Ask the Exemplar who became the embodiment of the wind/rain.
Thor has taken on an elemental as high up the food chain as Surtur on a good day.
Edit: She turns into lightning? Lulz.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Rogue Storm isnt full potential Storm. Thats Storm lashing out with her powers without holding back.Full potential Storm is Storm as a sorceress, Storm as an elemental energy being actually composed of lightning.
Oh, Storm as living lightning. I can't think of anything that Thor can do to stop her. She's like actual sentient lightning and he's nothing but fleshing hammer wielding Thor.
Rage do you have an idea?
Furthermore I have no idea who this Belasco is but magic and sorcery is something Thor battles very often so it's not like he's going to be at some huge disadvantage.
Iceman isn't beating Thor either.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
As an elemental Storm better get a serious boost in power to become a threat to Thor at all. Storm turning into a wind/water being that can more easily control the weather doesn't cut it. Ask the Exemplar who became the embodiment of the wind/rain.Thor has taken on am elemental as high up the food chain as Surtur.
The statement made was that no incarnation of Storm could be a threat to Thor. A human being is not a threat to Thor. Daredevil is no threat to Thor. A standard Storm is someone Thor could easily deal with. She is not zero threat level. There is a difference.
A full potential Storm with Belasco level mystical powers and is by nature an elemental energy being could very well be a threat to Thor.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The statement made was that no incarnation of Storm could be a threat to Thor. A human being is not a threat to Thor. Daredevil is no threat to Thor. A standard Storm is someone Thor could easily deal with. She is not zero threat level. There is a difference.A full potential Storm with Belasco level mystical powers and is by nature an elemental energy being could very well be a threat to Thor.
Are you going to post any scans or evidence on this version of Storm you're debating? Storm being elemental energy and fighting Thor doesn't sound like a good idea.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The statement made was that no incarnation of Storm could be a threat to Thor. A human being is not a threat to Thor. Daredevil is no threat to Thor. A standard Storm is someone Thor could easily deal with. She is not zero threat level. There is a difference.A full potential Storm with Belasco level mystical powers and is by nature an elemental energy being could very well be a threat to Thor.
I see your point. Storm possessing a borderline human body is a serious draw back when fighting Thor. The difference between Thor and most other elementals is that he has vast physical stats. A form made out of lighting would definitely help against physical attacks but she better be able to reform (Energy absorption for the win) or at least have control over lightning that challenges Thor so he does not simply disperse her.
Belasco? mhmm The Ka-zar villain?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I see your point. Storm possessing a borderline human body is a serious draw back when fighting Thor. The difference between Thor and most other elementals is that he has vast physical stats. A form made out of lighting would definitely help against physical attacks but she better be able to reform (Energy absorption for the win) or at least have control over lightning that challenges Thor so he does not simply disperse her.Belasco? mhmm The Ka-zar villain?
Belasco the Kazar/Magik/X-men villain. Yh.
Powerful sorcerer. So a Storm with abilities on his level and as an elemental energy being with finer control over the elements is definitely a threat to Thor.
Her combined with full potential Iceman could definitely gain some wins.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Belasco the Kazar/Magik/X-men villain. Yh.Powerful sorcerer. So a Storm with abilities on his level and as an elemental energy being with finer control over the elements is definitely a threat to Thor.
Her combined with full potential Iceman could definitely gain some wins.
How powerful is he? I know he has the standard sorcerer abilities.
Define threat. She better be able to reconstitute herself and so on or Thor would take this pretty easily. Being an elemental doesn't actually help her against Thor in any notable way (Might make this even easier) so this all depends on that "magical potential".
Are you basing this on that issue where Peter finally finds his sister and there's a future Ororo who was holding off Belasco with the help of the current one?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How powerful is he? I know he has the standard sorcerer abilities.Define threat. She better be able to reconstitute herself and so on or Thor would take this pretty easily. Being an elemental doesn't actually help her against Thor in any notable way (Might make this even easier) so this all depends on that "magical potential".
Are you basing this on that issue where Peter finally finds his sister and there's a future Ororo who was holding off Belasco with the help of the current one?
He is empowered by the Elder Gods and is a powerful and capable sorcerer to be able to rule Limbo. Capable of all of the usual sorcerer stuff such as mesmerism, shape-shifting, mystical force bolts, teleportation, time travel, matter transmutation, energy shields etc.
Storm has always been said to have great mystical potential, in that arc you're referring to and also in the recentish Mystic Arcana series from about 2 years ago where i believe she was linked to Oshtur. Furthermore there are What Ifs which explore what would happen if Storm explored her mystical potential. She becomes greater than Belasco and takes over Limbo.
Obviously both full potential storm and Iceman are hypothetical characters so we can only go on whats hinted and guess at what their capabilities would be.
However a Storm on par or even greater than Belasco mystically, who is also an energy being with finer control over her powers and able to travel and move around at lightning speed is certainly a big threat to Thor.
She could zip around avoiding his attacks whilst Bobby could go into his disembodied form that Thor cannot physically harm and simply freeze him at a molecular level. If he can destroy the Strangers physical form in such a manner then the same can be done to Thor.
Furthermore Thor needs to breathe, she could mystically seal his air passages whilst her and Bobby simultaneously pound away at him.
Storm could teleport a big slab of metal into Thors body or create an electrical storm inside his skull.
Of course Thor can disperse her electrical form or absorb it but only if she's in range. As per forum rules they start 500 metres away from each other and moving at the speed of lightning she'd be a lot faster than him.
The team together could definitely take a good amount of wins.
Belasco is the on again off again supreme sorcerer and ruler of limbo. immortal, fairly indestructible (although, his own sword can deal permanent damage to him), has displayed mind control, interdimensional travel, energy blasting, force fields, ressurection of the dead, transmutation of innanimate and living things.
I ignore any version of storm that actually met his power. Potentials are meaningless, any full potential omega mutant should solo the top tier class if we believe what the term stands for.
Originally posted by 753
I ignore any version of storm that actually met his power. Potentials are meaningless
You can choose to do so for standard debates, but this thread calls us to explore the possibilities of these characters abilities when they have reached the potential hinted at on panel. 😬
The potential hinted at on panel and realized in divergent Earths is that Storm is a mystic with powers on par with Belasco at least.
Such mystic might combined with the potential of her mutant powers makes this full potential storm a formidable foe for anyone below herald level.