Rogue Storm, Full Potential Ice Man Vs Thor

Started by Silent Master5 pages

Originally posted by Starscream M
there's also wind...she could create a tornado powerful enough to suck thor into its vortex and pound him against the earth

hail to freeze and numb thor

lightning storm to weaken him

etc

anyways, shouldn't iceman solo here?

You do know that Thor can control the weather, right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You do know that Thor can control the weather, right?
thor's control is mystical...storm's is natural

they don't overlap

storm's weather control is quite superior

Actually, Storm herself admitted that Thor has more control.

Originally posted by Starscream M
great debating there 🙄

I think the concept of fullpotential iceman is kinda silly...but thor would be frozen before the battle even begins in that scenario.

What's there to debate? You listed a bunch of nonsense. Seriously, there's like zero point of arguing with you anymore. We all know how it's going to end. With you looking stupid. Creating a tornado to slam Thor against the earth, hail to freeze and numb Thor? Lulz. Even ignoring Thor's superior weather control, his durability will make those attacks useless. I can honestly think of only like 1 time off the top of my head where the cold has had a somewhat effect on Thor.

Edit: No to the Iceman thing. The last part doesn't even make sense.

Originally posted by Starscream M
thor's control is mystical...storm's is natural

they don't overlap

storm's weather control is quite superior

What did I tell you about making shit up?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I still don't understand how Storm turning into pure lightning would be an upgrade from her human form against Thor. Okay, she has finer control of the elements, what's she going to do to Thor? Make it rain harder, toss out more powerful lightning? ermm

No ones saying the team are gonna dominate Thor and have a majority, but you're making out like theyre no threat to him whatsoever.

At their full potential the team can get some wins against Thor if you look at this objectively.

In a lightning form Storm would be able to evade Thor and stay out of his range so he wouldn't be absorbing her. Plus her powers mystical and mutant are both long range.

You say that CIS isnt off but it is within Storms character to kill when necessary when herself or others are threatened.

Whats to stop Storm teleporting off Thors arms loool. Then what? 😂

As Venus showed in Chaos War Thor is vulnerable to mesmerism. Whats to stop Storm hampering him through such an assault whilst Bobby disables him?

When it comes to Thor absorbing and re-directing attacks correct me if im wrong but he does through Mjolnir and Mjolnir needs to be pointed in the direction of the oncoming attack. There are two opponents hes in combat with here. One can move at 93,000 miles per second, the other can take on a disembodied form invulnerable to physical attacks. A form he can still use his powers in.

Bobbys powers can destroy the physical form of a being on Strangers level therefore there should be no doubt that if Storm keeps Thor distracted Bobby in his visually undetectable disembodied state could take Thor out.

Please remember there is no BFR so Thor would not have that option.

All im saying is that the team could get some wins. Be objective 😬

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Edit: No to the Iceman thing. The last part doesn't even make sense.
you obviously know jack about iceman

a non-full potential iceman can freeze thor's bloodflow with a mere thought

a full potential iceman would render thor a frozen block with a gesture

He tried that against Legion, it didn't work.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When it comes to Thor absorbing and re-directing attacks correct me if im wrong but he does through Mjolnir and Mjolnir needs to be pointed in the direction of the oncoming attack.
Nah. It can draw in attacks and absorb them:

Originally posted by Silent Master
He tried that against Legion, it didn't work.
Didn't he flashfreeze Legion?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
No ones saying the team are gonna dominate Thor and have a majority, but you're making out like theyre no threat to him whatsoever.

I never did anything of the sort.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
At their full potential the team can get some wins against Thor if you look at this objectively.

If you say so. I have no problem with this. Thor's done worse.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In a lightning form Storm would be able to evade Thor and stay out of his range so he wouldn't be absorbing her. Plus her powers mystical and mutant are both long range.

😬 Again? Where do you get this so called limitation of range from Mjolnir? I can't recall anything of the sort being hinted.

And evasion will be useless against Thor's energy absorption. Which is a hell of a lot more likely than the crap you used down below.

Where did you get the idea that Thor's a short range character?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You say that CIS isnt off but it is within Storms character to kill when necessary when herself or others are threatened.

😐 This is Ororo Munroe and not Wolverine. She has never been as blood thirsty as your making her out to be. At least not in anything I've read including her. I know Storm is willing to cross the line if their is enough at stake, but this isn't a battle that decides the fate of the world or some mad villain placing her family in danger. This is a battle between two factions. I recently recall Storm expressing her disappointment in Scott for X-Force, and now your claiming she's going to be mutilating and killing a fellow hero that's she's known for years.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Whats to stop Storm teleporting off Thors arms loool. Then what? 😂

Lulz. Ignoring Storm's character and personality, how exactly will she do this? I know she was able to teleport a group of people or something similar in that potential future but that doesn't automatically translate to her using teleportation in this manner. This is of course ignoring Thor's own durability and space/time manipulation (Potential a kink in this tactic)

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As Venus showed in Chaos War Thor is vulnerable to mesmerism. Whats to stop Storm hampering him through such an assault whilst Bobby disables him?

And as shown in plenty of other instances, Thor's extremely resistant to a wide range of tricks that play on the mind. How does Storm even accomplish this? Did she show this ability in that potential future with Belasco? If she did, did she accomplish it on a character of Thor's level?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When it comes to Thor absorbing and re-directing attacks correct me if im wrong but he does through Mjolnir and Mjolnir needs to be pointed in the direction of the oncoming attack.

Your wrong. Mjolnir can draw energy in from an omni directional area.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
There are two opponents hes in combat with here. One can move at 93,000 miles per second, the other can take on a disembodied form invulnerable to physical attacks. A form he can still use his powers in.

You keep mentioning Storm's travel speed like it matters whatsoever. Thor can toss Mjolnir (Millions of times faster than light. Since you love mentioning rarely used tactics) and will it to absorb energy. He can simply forcefully draw them into his hammer if anything.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Bobbys powers can destroy the physical form of a being on Strangers level therefore there should be no doubt that if Storm keeps Thor distracted Bobby in his visually undetectable disembodied state could take Thor out.

Copy and paste my previous post. If you want to ignore that: Thor has withstand attacks from the Casket of Ancient Winters. Bobby ain't succeeding.

Thor has resisted a mind storm created by the Stranger. At the time his powers were fluctuating wildly and during said mind storm, Moondragon described his power as nigh omnipotent at the time. Since you love focusing on that one Stranger feat so much, and brought up mind games.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Please remember there is no BFR so Thor would not have that option.

All im saying is that the team could get some wins. Be objective 😬

I am being objective.

Look:

The team can get some wins.

Happy?

Originally posted by Galan007
Nah. It can draw in attacks and absorb them:

But going by that scan SS was firing them in Thors direction right? So Thor was still pointing mjolnir at the bolts and absorbing them.

Full Potential Iceman a lot more powerful than Thor
He makes everything around him absolute zero and when all of THOR's atoms are frozen that means hes dead.

GG

Originally posted by Starscream M
you obviously know jack about iceman

a non-full potential iceman can freeze thor's bloodflow with a mere thought

a full potential iceman would render thor a frozen block with a gesture

I'm willing to bet I know a heck of a lot more about Iceman than you do.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But going by that scan SS was firing them in Thors direction right? So Thor was still pointing mjolnir at the bolts and absorbing them.
If Mjolnir can draw in energy attacks, then I wouldn't think there would be a need for it to be pointed specifically at his opponent. /shrug

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But going by that scan SS was firing them in Thors direction right? So Thor was still pointing mjolnir at the bolts and absorbing them.

I don't understand the problem. What are you asking for? We know Mjolnir can draw energy into the hammer. That's all that we would need to prove. He did something similar against the Thanosi clone. Heck, Thor once turned his hammer and absorbed all the magnetic energy in the Galaxy. Even Thunderstrike is capable of such it:

There could have been ten different Surfer's shooting at Thor from ten different directions, and each of the Cosmic bolts would have been drawn into the head I'm willing to bet.

Originally posted by Mindset
Didn't he flashfreeze Legion?

He froze every single water molecule in Legion's body.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He froze every single water molecule in Legion's body.
Yea, flash freeze.

Why did you say it didn't work?

Same reason it didn't work against Legion. He was still able to activate his powers. Not to mention Thor can handle cold much better than Legion seeing as IIRC he's stood up to the Casket of Ancient winters.

barely any talk of iceman