Rage.Of.Olympus
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Originally posted by 753
Electron manipulation is matter manipualtin
When has Black Bolt's power been described as matter manipulation? That's something you'd get from a character like Sersi. He has the ability to manipulate ambient electrons around him which gives him his ability to amp, fly etc. It's the reason his voice is so destructive. This ability also gives him the power to manipulate matter and energy.
His power set in of itself is not considered matter manipulation by writers. At least not in the sense we're talking about. Every time an opponent withstands a blast of his energy, I don't consider that a feat of resisting matter manipulation.
Originally posted by 753
and he both resisted and repaired himself afterwards. Obviously her transmutation powers are of a diffetrent nature as they are magic.
He trumped Black Bolt's powers with his own energy manipulation. Seriously, all they were did was toss energy at each other. Concession accepted.
Originally posted by 753
still not that frequent IMO, but I'll concede she may atempt them. Question is whether or not any energy based attack she throws at him will work.
Lulz.
All Warlock did was throw energy that happened to be mystical at Vulcan as far as I recall. That would be different than tossing a spell I'd wager. And Enchantress isn't an energy being in the sense Warlock was in that issue. I'm guessing it's because his a quantum magician or whatever that means.
Originally posted by 753
Barriers could be absorbed or dispelled, saying she is more durable than what hella can dish out at her max is nonsense. I'd say his maximum power output is still above her durabilty.
And could just as easily be put back up. Enchantress withstood attacks from a raging Hela equipped with the Twilight Sword. That right there is more power than Vulcan could even hope for in his wet dreams.
Then it's pretty great that what you say is not in of itself evidence.
Originally posted by 753
pretty good reaction feats during his fights and decent navigation while flying. Definitely faster than baseline human.
I don't care if his faster than baseline human. Speed isn't going to be a factor in this fight. Dodging energy attacks is about as far as speed will go in such a fight.
Originally posted by 753
He easily defeated the Magus's by eating his power and he was easily much more powerfull than she is.
Prove it. His greatest feat is transmuting a planet sized object. Impressive. Transmuting Thor is more impressive.
Originally posted by 753
To prove she can reach the level of power Havok used to overload him, you'd have to show a display of power from her that trumps what a sundipped havok can do and seen as he only has feats against vulcan that's impossible to do. So far, no other energy manipulator has got the best of him.
Havok was dipped into a f*cking star. That's about it. With your line of thinking you could argue that he was more powerful than Odin because we don't know his limitations. Silly logic is silly. Amora has created spells to ward off the effects of the World Tree. Crazy amount of power.
Originally posted by 753
I disagree and this sounds an awful lot like the thanos didnt get killed by odin argument.
Oh yea, why? Lulz. Enchantress actually stood her ground for a bit, and IIRC, temporarily knocked Hela out with the teleportation spell.