I can't edit my first post, but what I meant is that only "good" Asgard people are available to fight (that means no Enchantress, no Executioner and no weapons/armors available (no Norn Stones, no Destroyer Armor) also only people from the realm/city of Asgard, no Hel and no frost giants.
Lets say Loki will be an exception and will be around in scenario number 4.
Discuss
Originally posted by Silent Master
It seems like you really want the X-team to win.
I think gods from other realms and Destroyer Armors are just too much. Besides the Norn Stones apparently give the user the ability to make anything he wants, i guess using them on Gods will simply destroy both of the mutants with a fart, even in scenario number 4. Weapons can be available, but only swords, axes, magical hammers and all of that i meant no ubber-artifacts 😛
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
[B]When has Black Bolt's power been described as matter manipulation? That's something you'd get from a character like Sersi. He has the ability to manipulate ambient electrons around him which gives him his ability to amp, fly etc. It's the reason his voice is so destructive. This ability also gives him the power to manipulate matter and energy.His power set in of itself is not considered matter manipulation by writers. At least not in the sense we're talking about. Every time an opponent withstands a blast of his energy, I don't consider that a feat of resisting matter manipulation.
Well i conceded nothing and he repaired himself after his own mass had been screwed by BB's power
He trumped Black Bolt's powers with his own energy manipulation. Seriously, all they were did was toss energy at each other. Concession accepted.
yes exaclty that. he operated on a more impressive scale as he controlled that quanta of energy that made magic up. a spell would just be magical energy.
Lulz.All Warlock did was throw energy that happened to be mystical at Vulcan as far as I recall. That would be different than tossing a spell I'd wager. And Enchantress isn't an energy being in the sense Warlock was in that issue. I'm guessing it's because his a quantum magician or whatever that means.
meh you think too much of the norse gods.
And could just as easily be put back up. Enchantress withstood attacks from a raging Hela equipped with the Twilight Sword. That right there is more power than Vulcan could even hope for in his wet dreams.Then it's pretty great that what you say is not in of itself evidence.
lulz
Prove it. His greatest feat is transmuting a planet sized object. Impressive. Transmuting Thor is more impressive.
and no there is nothing to prove, GoG made it clear he was a trans level being while she is a mid, maybe a high herald. nova prime was a bug compare to him, it would have taken a cosmic cube blast to take him out while weakened so he didn't conquer a crap load of realities (which he did in divergent timelines), his actions warped the timeline itself rewriting the past, he pulled an alternate universe to stabilize the fault that would have ripped the multiverse apart and controlled magic at its most fundamental level. sure, it was a cheap win that vulcan got against him thanks to the nature of their powers and Magus could likely take him down through indirect means or if he was aware of vulcan's powers, but it still happened and shows how much juice he can handle.
so what? SM sundips into a star and comes out far more powerfull than your post would imply.
Havok was dipped into a f*cking star. That's about it. With your line of thinking you could argue that he was more powerful than Odin because we don't know his limitations. Silly logic is silly. Amora has created spells to ward off the effects of the World Tree. Crazy amount of power.
If you want to claim she is stronger than sundipped havok you'd have to compare thei levels and the only feat he has is taking vulcan down. the odin example has no bearing on this because we know how far above the herald class he is and that he'd crush vulcan with even more ease, but amora isn't above the herald class.
thanos stood his ground for a bit too. the BFR was a good showing for her and it might work on vulcan, but it might not. as far as his own exotic attacks go, shutting her synapses - which as I understand asgardians have - down would help.
Oh yea, why? Lulz. Enchantress actually stood her ground for a bit, and IIRC, temporarily knocked Hela out with the teleportation spell.