Based on feats. She hasn't beaten anyone that Bane hasn't or couldn't. She trained with Nightwing who Bane has repeatedly owned. Bane has beaten Killer Croc twice, Azreal Jean, Hourman 1 & 2 simultaneously, Ubu and killed Judo Master.
Bane has a photographic memory and has develop his own fighting style.
How is she much more skilled?
Originally posted by King Castle
Shiva, Batman, Nightwing, Batgirl, Bronze Tiger, karate Kid 2 and 3 aka Mix Martial Arts kid.... Deathstroke(iffy due to stats but still better then canary)....... Arsenal, Richard Dragon, Sensei......i was struggling with the last one... 😖mart:
Originally posted by King Castle
Shiva, Batman, Nightwing, Batgirl, Bronze Tiger, karate Kid 2 and 3 aka Mix Martial Arts kid.... Deathstroke(iffy due to stats but still better then canary)....... Arsenal, Richard Dragon, Sensei......i was struggling with the last one... 😖mart:
This would be the list (I imagine) that would place Dinah at seven. It is fairly accurate up to six I suppose with some slight room for minor juggling, but there are several characters that deserve the spot more than Dinah (Arsenal isn't one of them), and a few more obscure / questionable characters that could easily be added to drop Batman out of the top 10 entirely.
1. Dragon
2. Shiva
3. BT
4. Cass
5. Connor
6. Batman
7. Dinah
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
This would be the list (I imagine) that would place Dinah at seven. It is fairly accurate up to six I suppose with some slight room for minor juggling, but there are several characters that deserve the spot more than Dinah (Arsenal isn't one of them), and a few more obscure / questionable characters that could easily be added to drop Batman out of the top 10 entirely.1. Dragon
2. Shiva
3. BT
4. Cass
5. Connor
6. Batman
7. Dinah
Silver Monkey, Mad Dog, and Alpha belong on that list as well.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
This would be the list (I imagine) that would place Dinah at seven. It is fairly accurate up to six I suppose with some slight room for minor juggling, but there are several characters that deserve the spot more than Dinah (Arsenal isn't one of them), and a few more obscure / questionable characters that could easily be added to drop Batman out of the top 10 entirely.1. Dragon
2. Shiva
3. BT
4. Cass
5. Connor
6. Batman
7. Dinah
its blashenmy if you think you can bump off bat's frm the list... what has any of the others done that bat's hasnt matter of fact lets compare history... most of them little appearances and feats even if you go back 20 to 30 yrs...
Batman by that virtue is top three easy.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Srank, you'd do well to refrain from discussions you have no clue about.
Let me know when one comes up.
Cass her self stated she beat Shiva because she had a death wish. Simple as that. Not really much room for interpretation... but you can chose to ignore it if you'd like. Being uninformed is your prerogative
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Silver Monkey, Mad Dog, and Alpha belong on that list as well.
Hence me saying "a few more obscure / questionable characters that could easily be added to drop Batman out of the top 10 entirely."
Silver Monkey, Drakon and White Canary, Sense and I-Ching, Promethus and Archer. You can make a dramatically different 10 ten list if you wanted to include everyone.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Let me know when one comes up.Cass her self stated she beat Shiva because she had a death wish. Simple as that. Not really much room for interpretation... but you can chose to ignore it if you'd like. Being uninformed is your prerogative
If she just wanted Cass to kill her she wouldn't have trained her ass off for the rematch.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Hmm. What has I-Ching done? Sensei pretty much owned Batman and would have won, if not for his age. Sensei and I-Ching will be in the latest Batman arc, so I can't wait for it. I have a suspicion that Dick will defeat Sensei. If that happens, Dick would be above Bruce in hth skills. Time will tell.
Current continuity I-Ching hasn't really anything, unless he showed up in JMS Wonder Woman which I'm not reading.
Dick is supposed to be Bruce level right now... It is unclear if he will get nerfed now that Bruce is back, or that Bruce will get a buff. Either way DC won't let Nightwing be the equal of Batman while they are both active.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
And Shiva herself stated that Cass beat her because at that point Shiva had gotten complacent and Cass was simply just that good.If she just wanted Cass to kill her she wouldn't have trained her ass off for the rematch.
Punisher trains his ass off and he has a death wish too. It is a psychological aliment, the person might not even be aware of it consciously, but it is enough to tip the scales of a fight.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Punisher trains his ass off and he has a death wish too. It is a psychological aliment, the person might not even be aware of it consciously, but it is enough to tip the scales of a fight.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Current continuity I-Ching hasn't really anything, unless he showed up in JMS Wonder Woman which I'm not reading.Dick is supposed to be Bruce level right now... It is unclear if he will get nerfed now that Bruce is back, or that Bruce will get a buff. Either way DC won't let Nightwing be the equal of Batman while they are both active.
He's shown some small chi type abilities, but that's it.