Thanos Imperative vs. Blackest Night

Started by Galan0073 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
A death god can destroy a death god so why can't one version of death destroy another version of death ?

You're trying to say because they don't have access to one plot device they don't have the power necessary to kill Nekron. I still see Death, Galactus, the Galactus Engine, the Celestials all having more than enough power to destroy his body.

Penrose staircase. Not gonna keep debating your paradoxical "this concept of death is > that concept of death" line of 'logic'.

I am not arguing for BN as a whole -- I'm just not of the opinion that Nekron can be destroyed by the TI.

Originally posted by Galan007
Penrose staircase. Not gonna keep debating your paradoxical "this concept of death is > that concept of death" line of 'logic'.

I am not arguing for BN as a whole -- I'm just not of the opinion that Nekron can be destroyed by the TI.

I already told you titles are meaningless basically it's like saying one death god can't kill another one. The more powerful being can usually always defeat the less powerful one based off powers or abilities and his body can be destroyed and once his troops are gone he can't possess another body so he is defeated.

I understand.

^ We aren't dealing with 'beings' in the typical sense -- moreso we are dealing with concepts. Concepts who embody the same thing.

I'm not going down that path, quanch.

I really don't see how BN can win.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ We aren't dealing with 'beings' in the typical sense -- moreso we are dealing with concepts. Concepts who embody the same thing.

I'm not going down that path, quanch.

Going by your logic all concepts from different universes are created equal. That doesn't fly with me.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
There is NO WAY the Oans, Parallax and Spectre (not backed by the Presence) can hold back the Celestials. They function at a much lower tier that the Celestials. The Anti-Monitor maybe but don't forget the Galactus Engine, Glactus, TnA, the MAO (that must include Shuma Gorath). The MAO might not have many feats to their name but all the MAO gotta do is do to the 616 team what they did to the cancerverse: Make them undying.

So what can the black rings do to ppl who don't die?

The MAO didn't simply make their team undying. Death made Thanos immortal by banning him from her realm. The MAO's destroyed Death in their universe and thus made everyone there immortal. Notice how the Cancerverse beings don't simply reform, like the Defenders of the Realm, when they die in the 616? In a neutral setting, the only way for the MAO to make their team immortal is to kill both Nekron and Death. That or Death prevents her team from dying but that's nulled by the fact that Nekron can also claim the dead. The BN team, however, has the Life Entity which is the equivalent of Eternity in most regards (save time/space). It's the power of life/light in the universe, putting it on Nekron's level and above any of the beings on team two save Mistress Death. And no, SG is mentioned but it doesn't mean it's one of the MAO of the Cancerverse. As far as we know, SG has his own realms it reigns over, not the Cancerverse.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I really don't see how BN can win.

The Galactus Engine did nothing. It's powers can't even be gaged that well. The Celestials are not equivalent to the powers of a Eternity lite being. Neither is Galactus. The MAO got WTFKO by Mistress Death and could only enter the Cancerverse after Death was destroyed. BN team has waves of dead and converts more with an endless supply of black rings. The other corps and the Oans. Spectre, Parallax, and the Anti-Monitor. Nekron and the Life Entity tip things in favor of the BN team.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
The MAO didn't simply make their team undying. Death made Thanos immortal by banning him from her realm. The MAO's destroyed Death in their universe and thus made everyone there immortal. Notice how the Cancerverse beings don't simply reform, like the Defenders of the Realm, when they die in the 616? In a neutral setting, the only way for the MAO to make their team immortal is to kill both Nekron and Death. That or Death prevents her team from dying but that's nulled by the fact that Nekron can also claim the dead. The BN team, however, has the Life Entity which is the equivalent of Eternity in most regards (save time/space). It's the power of life/light in the universe, putting it on Nekron's level and above any of the beings on team two save Mistress Death. And no, SG is mentioned but it doesn't mean it's one of the MAO of the Cancerverse. As far as we know, SG has his own realms it reigns over, not the Cancerverse.

The Galactus Engine did nothing. It's powers can't even be gaged that well. The Celestials are not equivalent to the powers of a Eternity lite being. Neither is Galactus. The MAO got WTFKO by Mistress Death and could only enter the Cancerverse after Death was destroyed. BN team has waves of dead and converts more with an endless supply of black rings. The other corps and the Oans. Spectre, Parallax, and the Anti-Monitor. Nekron and the Life Entity tip things in favor of the BN team.

The Cancer Verse X-Men were "killed" by the Shiar imperial guardsmen prior to the Thanos Imperative, and then showed up again during the actual event, so I think they can reform in the 616 reality, it just takes a while.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The Cancer Verse X-Men were "killed" by the Shiar imperial guardsmen prior to the Thanos Imperative, and then showed up again during the actual event, so I think they can reform in the 616 reality, it just takes a while.

They were killed inside the Fault though. Inside the Fault the rules are bent. It's basically a point where different realities are mesh together. That's why the Sphinx was able to aquire two Ka Stones at the same time which he said was only possible due to the uniqueness of the Fault.