I am interested in what relevences most of those feats posted even have with this debate let a lone make Ares win? All you did white witch was post ars respect thread with out giving single reason for there relevance's or why it makes Ares win.
Ripping open a portal is completely irrelevant to this fight, as is existing in all times. It cool and all but has nothing to do with this fight.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Ares takes this 7/10. The stone stare isn't going to work at all. Like Rage said, Alex being Olympian prevented the stare from working. Gorgon has died, there's nothing for him to fear. It wasn't because their powers canceled each other out.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No actually it because he the god of fear. Gorgon power is supposed to work like gorgon from mythology in which the stare petrifies the person into stone, which would be impossible to accomplish against the god of fear which is what explains his immunity.
In mythology, the person has to look at them. Gorgon can turn people into stone without looking at them. Also, it doesn't make sense because he turned to stone when Logan reflected his stare at him. Essentially you're arguing that he petrified himself and thus turned himself into stone? lol
The stone stare didn't work on Alex because he was a god. It's not going to work Ares either, who essential ripped apart a portal that Eden said under his control and step between time to attack Nate.
But as usual people try and play up gods and pretend that one of them doing something some how equates to all of them being able to.
Except in Ares' case he's got feats to back him up on the matter.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I am interested in what relevences most of those feats posted even have with this debate let a lone make Ares win? All you did white witch was post ars respect thread with out giving single reason for there relevance's or why it makes Ares win.Ripping open a portal is completely irrelevant to this fight, as is existing in all times. It cool and all but has nothing to do with this fight.
How is it irrelevant when Eden claimed he was the only one to determine who goes through the portal and Ares proved him wrong? Either it's him being a god that allowed him to do that or it's his strength or both. Do you see guys like Luke Cage or Venom doing something like that? There's been no instances at all. Cool? Gorgon shattered godstalker against Alex's grasscutter. At best, Gorgon's strength did not over whelm Alex in the least bit. Ares would stomp Gorgon when there weapons clash. Unfortunate for Gorgon, Ares isn't going to go easy on him the way he did against his own son. Gorgon got put on his butt when Stonewall got pissed off; Ares is going to do it worse.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
And you think that is herc level?No.
It is over venom but it isnt herc.
Matching A-Bomb isn't? Ripping apart a portal isn't? He isn't Herc level but he was beating Herc's face in and choking him until Herc ripped the steel floor from his feet which sent him off the Hellicarrier. That Ares is going to have a problem with Gorgon.
Has the stone stare ever worked on a God before first of all? Because that would be necessary in order for there to be any sort of precedent for the claim that the stare would work on Ares. Generally, gods have immunity to numerous transmutational effects anyways. In this case however what makes it even more unlikely that it would work on Ares is that, it has failed to work on another God. So their is a precedent for its failure that has already been set. The burden of proof is therefore overwhelmingly on those saying it will work on Ares to provide proof that it will.
Decent thread, I'm undecided.
Originally posted by carver9Because you think he is comparable to Wonder Woman in speed and has Hulk level healing and is physically stronger than Spider-Man. Spider-Man and Gorgon are are comparable in speed but if you think he's blitzing everyone you're out of your mind. He has been cut way more times by Wolverine where Spider-Man has only been stabbed once. In a practice match... on accident. 😐
Gorgon wins 8/10 and how many times do I have to say this "gorgon is faster than spiderman", so stop comparing the two.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Decent thread, I'm undecided. Because you think he is comparable to Wonder Woman in speed and has Hulk level healing and is physically stronger than Spider-Man. Spider-Man and Gorgon are are comparable in speed but if you think he's blitzing everyone you're out of your mind. He has been cut way more times by Wolverine where Spider-Man has only been stabbed once. In a practice match... on accident. 😐
Here you go spamming again... we already discussed this c-master so stop saying it.
Like I said, gorgon is MUCH faster than spiderman, not wonder woman SPIDERMAN. I never depicted you as a spammer c-master. When was he stabbed by wolverine without being sneaked? Spiderman has been hit by people in wolvy tier of speed (or probably slower). He has been in a physical fight with king pin, hobgoblin, lizard, sabertooth, hell, hulk has hit him, cap, daredevil, silver samurai owned him in a couple of panels, and the list goes on and on.
Originally posted by carver9Wolverine has tagged Gorgon several times. Spider-Man hasn't been. Spider-Man has blitzed teams, going by your logic he'd be slower but I didn't really say either was much slower, just comparable. But I guess he isn't Wonder Woman level of speed like Gorgon so you may have a point. 📖 Featwars blow.
Here you go spamming again... we already discussed this c-master so stop saying it.Like I said, gorgon is MUCH faster than spiderman, not wonder woman SPIDERMAN. I never depicted you as a spammer c-master. When was he stabbed by wolverine without being sneaked? Spiderman has been hit by people in wolvy tier of speed (or probably slower). He has been in a physical fight with king pin, hobgoblin, lizard, sabertooth, hell, hulk has hit him, cap, daredevil, silver samurai owned him in a couple of panels, and the list goes on and on.
Anyways, you'd actually be spamming first by bringing him in the thread. Have a nice day.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
bad I was referring to you trying to pretend Alex matchign Gorgon means Ares can in speed. I never stated anything or even implied that my last post had anything to do with stone stare. So you just went on about something I was not even argueing.
My bad. So do you admit that until you present evidence to the contrary, it’s safe to assume that Ares will not be affected by the stone stare? I think Morgan Le Fay was able to use her magic to turn Ares to stone, but I’m not sure that helps your case any.
I’m not pretending at all. We know Ares can match Alex in speed. We know that Alex can match Gorgon in speed.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Nor was gorgon, in fact he has not been a real character untill pretty much the last two years if that and he shown consistent speed, comparable to his original appearances which took place several years ago.
Are we really going to pretend that Gorgon and Ares are anywhere close to being the same type of character (I’m assuming you know what I mean by “type”)?
Like I said a while ago, I’m not going to pretend that if they fought in a comic, Ares would be moving as fast as Gorgon or Wolverine (He just can’t for there to be a fight) but in a battle on the forums, I sure as hell will argue that he can.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
It pis becuse he never displayed that level of speed prior or since even remotely close to it.
It’s posts like this that really make me want to stop arguing with you. You’re so quick to jump on anything that Wolverine does but when we’re arguing about shit that would go against Wolverine, there always has to be some bullshit excuse.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
So Ares is now capable of weaving in an out of machine gun firer, deflecting machine gun firer easily, out reacting a speedstir ect? Despite the fact he only has a single impressive speed feat? are you serous?
I don’t think we’ll ever see Ares doing anything like that simply because none of the above presents any threat to him. Do I think he can though? Yea.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Again basing one time feats as the norm. Honestly sad part is you trying to act like I am the one being rediculous, but in fact it you.
Okay, don’t think of it as their norm. Think of it as a level they’re able to operate on when facing someone with significant speed. Which is exactly what happened. Ares wasn’t zooming around or operating on plank time levels earlier during the X-man fight, because he didn't have to be.
I saw Alex keep up with Gorgon. I saw Ares weave through time to find X-man.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Your using one time events as if there the norm/ Alex nor Ares has ever displayed that type of consistent speed, that gorgon has or even close to it. But becuase Alex had one good showing which was also his death agaisnt gorgon now means Ares has comparable speed to Gorgon is absurd.
At this point, I’d wager very few people think Ares keeping with Gorgon is somehow absurd.
I’m too hung over to give a shit about this. I think Ares is more than capable of keeping with Gorgon in a fight (At least a forum fight).
Sorry for the late reply by the way. School.
