Charlie vs Juri

Started by Tha C-Master9 pages

Originally posted by No End N Site
1. Juri wasn't almost killed by the PIS Srk/DP before she fought the dolls, was she?

2. Juri soloed 12 dolls, not 13. Cammy was not included when she opened up that can of whoop ass. Cammy was there when the dolls jumped Bison and Cammy is the strongest of the dolls.

Come again.

That's what it was. Psycho sexual, hot lezboz trump all.

Is she actually a lesbo or fanservice?

One of Juri's original likes was "Large breasts" if I remember right.

Yea I figured that would be part of it, I figured it was more of a "depraved bisexual" route.

Personally, would say it is. That is the vibe I get from her.

More fetish fuel then?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea I figured that would be part of it, I figured it was more of a "depraved bisexual" route.

Yeah, the breast thing. And in the OVA, she gets Chun in a standin' submission hold from the back and whispers in her ear 'bout somethin' (in japanese), looks pretty "sensual" and in the game she teases Chun about havein' a "school girl crush" on her.

She's straight to the point with dudes, it seems (still enjoys herself). But when she fights chicks, she really plays around...alot.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
WTF? She beat the 12 dolls, Cammy AND Guile, consecutively. And she do so EZly. So what point R U tring 2 make?

Point still stands, she wasn't almost dead when she fought any of them.

I think the game developers wanted to jerk around with the male fanbase.

Yea, I think gender really doesnt matter to juri. Her gratification comes from
hurting people.

Nothing wrong with that.

Someone was actually arguing Wolverine beating Ryu at his best showngs in comic vs.

wouldn't Wolverine beat Ryu?

Originally posted by No End N Site
Y

Point still stands, she wasn't almost dead when she fought any of them.

I don't think Charlie could Dfeat the dolls, let alone Guile then Cammy. Juri did, however. Charlie might have a hard time with guile alone.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
wouldn't Wolverine beat Ryu?
Not at his best incarnation. maybe his weakest.

He's tough but Captain America can smack him around and Cyclops does it too. He'd win a little over Cap because of his healing.

Wouldn't his healin' make it impossible for Ryu to win, unless is allowed to KO him? I remember a Wolvy VS Ryu thread a long time ago and Wolvy won, but Ryu has gotten alotta feats and showings since then.

Ryu would have to fight with the intent to kill in order to put the hurt on Wolvy.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Wouldn't his healin' make it impossible for Ryu to win, unless is allowed to KO him? I remember a Wolvy VS Ryu thread a long time ago and Wolvy won, but Ryu has gotten alotta feats and showings since then.

Ryu would have to fight with the intent to kill in order to put the hurt on Wolvy.

He can be ko'ed. Current Ryu has enough feats under his belt and range.

He isn't impossible to beat by any means, what thread was this? I've argued several here and it was a stomp in Ryu's favor.

Cyclops schools Logan enough, and Cyclops is just an olympic level athlete physically, he's not superhuman at all. Logan isn't in the range of someone who can hang with Akuma for a decent length of time.

It was worse then they argued Daredevil beating Akuma.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He can be ko'ed. Current Ryu has enough feats under his belt and range.

He isn't impossible to beat by any means, what thread was this? I've argued several here and it was a stomp in Ryu's favor.

Cyclops schools Logan enough, and Cyclops is just an olympic level athlete physically, he's not superhuman at all. Logan isn't in the range of someone who can hang with Akuma for a decent length of time.

It was worse then they argued Daredevil beating Akuma.

Dude, iirc, Wolvy could regenerate from just a cell.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Dude, iirc, Wolvy could regenerate from just a cell.
Yea, but that's more tantamount to PIS, much like Spider-Man beating Firelord or something. He did it, but it is so out of the norm that it is just considered bad writing. Arguing in the comic forum is a bit different than arguing here because we treat everything here as good canon. Comics have different writers so you have good showings and bad showings.

An example of this would be Deathstroke (someone slower than Spider-Man) tagging Flash.

Wolverine has also been knocked out by a deer. He's been knocked out by Thing, Namor, Hulk. Daredevil has taken it to him, as well as Cap. All who hit very hard like SF characters when they amp their chi.

Wolverine would be facing a better fighter, someone faster, stronger, and with a projectile. He'd only have healing and he'd need it.

Now if the thread was about "killing" Wolverine he wouldn't be able to most likely (without something like the Shungokusatsu), but if it is just to Ko, that is well within his power.

Ryu at his crazy showings, Chinese manga, Alpha movie, etc, would stomp.

His average would still have a healthy win ratio.

His lowest showings (like Udon or DDP) would be him about matched and the fight wouldn't go anywhere.

I honestly don't get it. That's why I don't argue for comic book characters. Way too many comics to keep up with. I just assume that Wolvy has some comic somewhere that has him do somethin' crazy powerful, like last more than 5 minutes with the Hulk in a fight. When I seen Batman sock the shit outta Darkseid I stopped tryin' to wrap my head around the proper procedures in a comic debate. I was like, "WHOA! Batman's pretty tough, now!"

Originally posted by No End N Site
I honestly don't get it. That's why I don't argue for comic book characters. Way too many comics to keep up with. I just assume that Wolvy has some comic somewhere that has him do somethin' crazy powerful, like last more than 5 minutes with the Hulk in a fight. When I seen Batman sock the shit outta Darkseid I stopped tryin' to wrap my head around the proper procedures in a comic debate. I was like, "WHOA! Batman's pretty tough, now!"
Oh lol.

I can see the confusion. Yea with comics you have the plot and different writers make stupid things happening all the time. It isn't as linear as games and anime.

We have a ranking to help out with that.

Top tiers are like: Superman, Silver Surfer, Flash

Mid tiers are like: Iron Man, Spider-Man, Thing

Low tiers are like: Batman, Daredevil, Wolverine (proabaly sits somewhere here and mid tier).

There's more to it than that, but I hope that makes sense. You just need some common sense and you'll be fine.

Alot of what happens in Debates that does turn things into shitfights is perception as well. If two or more people perceive the same chain of events differently, then they are going to clash about it and there will be blood.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Alot of what happens in Debates that does turn things into shitfights is perception as well. If two or more people perceive the same chain of events differently, then they are going to clash about it and there will be blood.
That is true, if you've been to comic vs you will see we have the cross genre matches. That's why I say Ryu at his highest, at his mid, and at his lowest since I know there is a ton of SF stuff out there.

DBZ is a major pain to argue there because of the power stacking they have. So we have people saying they win because "they are more powerful than xxx who beat xxx in xxx saga"! Then people use noncanon filler without specifying the anime being used, so then *that* is being argued too.

Comics aren't debated the same way unfortunately. But perception is an issue anywhere, no two people will see a character the same.