Sarah Palin is not stupid.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Debatable.

He was charismatic for sure, but he made a ton of easily avoidable mistakes that arguably cost Germany the war.

Of course it's difficult to tell how much of that was from his own natural failings and how much was from the fact that throughout the entire war (but especially during the last two-three years) he was as high as a kite on barbiturates and other drugs.

I'd say he was of average intelligence all things considered, perhaps a little above average. He basically came in at the right time and the right place to gain a following among a malleable demographic...like Palin.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You know her? Like... had lunch with her?

Fun fact: I had Mitt Romney's personal cellphone #. I called him a couple of times: one time, he was eating with his family at a diner and did not have time to talk, another time, he was too busy to talk to me because the republican nomations were ending. I understood that he was a busy man so I did not bug him and he was nice about it. I like the guy and as I got to know his political stances, I like him more as a politician now than I did before. I think he would have been a better president than Obama. However, I do not think Obama is bad, at all. I like Obama, too.

I lost his cell #, though, when my phone broke and I replaced it with my iPhone.

Wanna know how I got it? Huh, huh, huh? It's so cool how I got it.

As far as Palin, OMG! She is such a moron. I cannot stand her. And arguing with her supporters is even worse.

At least her daughter didn't win on DWTS, despite, I'm sure, all those damn supporters phoning in their votes 64,000x over.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Gives a new meaning to "war on drugs".

Being stupid, self-delusional, and manipulative are not mutually exclusive.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I like the guy and as I got to know his political stances, I like him more as a politician now than I did before. I think he would have been a better president than Obama. However, I do not think Obama is bad, at all. I like Obama, too.

...at all? How would you back up that position, if asked? What are the contrary positions you think would have made all that difference? If presidential candidates take a position to garner support, but then faulter on those positions when they assume office because of national favorability polls, how does it matter who the hell becomes president? If you like Obama and think he's "not a bad president...at all", then when and if he's relieved of the pressure of getting a second term, what would you like him to do that he isn't doing now? The second term is the only real contract with America any president really has, which ever half of America it is that got him or her re-elected.

I hope he gets a second term. I hope he becomes the semi-socialist I voted for, in the first place.

Originally posted by skekUng
...at all? How would you back up that position, if asked?

That's quite easy to do, since this is my opinion, not yours.

Variables:
var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore
...var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore = "" (Sets the value of this variable to nothing or null. It is obviously a string, at this point)
var_satisfaction

Definition: var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore is found by an aggregation of agreenace to speeches, decisions, and positions while in office.

Get userinput "var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore" from user=dadudemon

If var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore > 50%

Then satisfaction = "Not bad at all."

...If var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore is > or = 60% and < 70%

......satisfaction + "In fact, he's good."

...Else if var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore is > or = 70% and < 80%

......satisfaction + "In fact, he's great."

...Else if var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore is > or = 80% and < 90%

......satisfaction + "In fact, he's awesome."

...Else if var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore is > or = 90% and < 100%

......satisfaction + "In fact, he's excellent."

...Else var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore is > or = 100%

......satisfaction + "Wait...wait a minute. This is an imaginary number. Unless.........are you the president?!?!?!"

...End if

Else statisfaction = "I do not approve of this president."

End if

Originally posted by skekUng
What are the contrary positions you think would have made all that difference? If presidential candidates take a position to garner support, but then faulter on those positions when they assume office because of national favorability polls, how does it matter who the hell becomes president? If you like Obama and think he's "not a bad president...at all", then when and if he's relieved of the pressure of getting a second term, what would you like him to do that he isn't doing now? The second term is the only real [b]contract with America any president really has, which ever half of America it is that got him or her re-elected.

I hope he gets a second term. I hope he becomes the semi-socialist I voted for, in the first place. [/B]

You can start reading, here:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

You're welcome.

You are a dork.

Originally posted by skekUng
...at all? How would you back up that position, if asked? What are the contrary positions you think would have made all that difference? If presidential candidates take a position to garner support, but then faulter on those positions when they assume office because of national favorability polls, how does it matter who the hell becomes president? If you like Obama and think he's "not a bad president...at all", then when and if he's relieved of the pressure of getting a second term, what would you like him to do that he isn't doing now? The second term is the only real [b]contract with America any president really has, which ever half of America it is that got him or her re-elected.

I hope he gets a second term. I hope he becomes the semi-socialist I voted for, in the first place. [/B]

To be fair, Obama didn't portray himself as semi-socialist even in his campaign.

it's funny that democrats would be considered a center-right party anywhere else in the world

Originally posted by Bardock42
To be fair, Obama didn't portray himself as semi-socialist even in his campaign.

No, not really. But I could hope there was a glimmer of truth to the accusations made against him. It wasn't hard to miss if you lived here and listened to the slack-jaws whine about spreading the wealth and being kept from owning the imaginary business they assumed the American dream promised them.

The American dream is a dillusion.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That's quite easy to do, since this is my opinion, not yours.

Variables:
var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore
...var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore = "" (Sets the value of this variable to nothing or null. It is obviously a string, at this point)
var_satisfaction

Definition: var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore is found by an aggregation of agreenace to speeches, decisions, and positions while in office.

Get userinput "var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore" from user=dadudemon

If var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore > 50%

Then satisfaction = "Not bad at all."

...If var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore is > or = 60% and < 70%

......satisfaction + "In fact, he's good."

...Else if var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore is > or = 70% and < 80%

......satisfaction + "In fact, he's great."

...Else if var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore is > or = 80% and < 90%

......satisfaction + "In fact, he's awesome."

...Else if var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore is > or = 90% and < 100%

......satisfaction + "In fact, he's excellent."

...Else var_dadudemonsPresidentialApprovalScore is > or = 100%

......satisfaction + "Wait...wait a minute. This is an imaginary number. Unless.........are you the president?!?!?!"

...End if

Else statisfaction = "I do not approve of this president."

End if

You can start reading, here:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

You're welcome.

I'm not impressed by all of it.

Very nice link. Now give us one that illustrates how Mitt Romeny had better positions and how they're at all reconcilable with what an adequate job Mr. Obama has, is and will do in your opinion. Where is that link to the site that tells us how Mr. Romey's positions were a better fit for America. I don't need to be convinced that mr. Obama is doing a good job, but I did ask how he's "at all" when compared to your real choice, Mr. Romney.

I'm not sure why I expected a more complex answer from someone who called me a 'sock troll' and 'too new to respond to', in the same post.

If your next answer involves using your name as a brand, then I'll appreciate you not wasting my time.

Originally posted by skekUng
No, not really. But I could hope there was a glimmer of truth to the accusations made against him. It wasn't hard to miss if you lived here and listened to the slack-jaws whine about spreading the wealth and being kept from owning the imaginary business they assumed the American dream promised them.

The American dream is a dillusion.

I think that is all that he did.

Originally posted by 753
it's funny that democrats would be considered a center-right party anywhere else in the world

In Iran they have red states and redder states.

hehe theocracy is a *****

What jut because there are only 96 true left-wingers in congress and only 2 congressmen that aren't guilty of impeachable offenses and our president is a corrupt, gutless, pussy?

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
The idea that she is unintelligent is merely a superficial analysis of her character, much like the dismissal of George W. Bush's intellect. Sarah Palin is immensely cunning. She is manipulative and sly, and she is dangerous. To handwave her presence as a non-factor would be foolish.

When she originally was announced as John McCain's running mate, I believed she would fade into the background once they suffered their inevitable defeat. Instead, she has risen through the ranks with unparalleled rapidity, becoming a celebrity politician. But she has not turned out the way that the Republican party had, I suspect, initially hoped. Instead of being a Republican standard-bearer, Palin was rejected after the election by a fair portion of Republicans due to her inexperience and potential for liability. This is partially her own fault, of course, given her ignorance and tendency toward cut-and-paste political talking points, but she has not let that stop her. Assimilating herself into the Tea Party, she has gradually usurped its small government origins into a Republican sect. An offshoot of traditional right-wing politics though it may be, it is only a matter of time before the Tea Party is wholly brought into the fold of Republican party, quelled and assured that the establishment Republicans will look out for their interests.

And when the Tea Party is fully a part of the Republican party, Sarah Palin will be right there with them. A political figurine grudgingly accepted, but a part of something larger. She has already proven herself adept at generating revenue, tapping into the fears and worries of the American people, and using Christianity to draw voters to her cause. She has slowly crafted the image she wishes to present of herself, eagerly accepting interviews and appearing at media events to put herself in the spotlight.

Like I said, Sarah Palin is cunning. She has gone from unknown Alaskan governor to media centerpiece over the course of two years. The idea that she is in any way "stupid" is preposterous. Is she a conniver only interested in promoting herself and increasing her fame? Absolutely. But is she dumb? Not at all.

She's foul and a sign of the corruption within US Politics.

I hope he gets a second term. I hope he becomes the semi-socialist I voted for, in the first place.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not in Iran.

In Iran they have red states and redder states.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I think that is all that he did.

Does the shorter girl in your avatar have a goatee?

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
I don't. He's spineless and cowardly. Watching him grovel to Republicans and apologize for "not reaching out" more made me want to vomit. The fact is, the Republifags we have in Congress are cancer on America. Not the ones we just voted in (not necessarily), but the career politicians who have made their livelihoods on selling trickle-down economics and enjoying government-funded health benefits while manipulating the masses into thinking that universal health care is socialism and death panels.

I agree. I hink he needs a pair, but let's not neglect the fact that the entire democrat party is guilty of that mindset. It's not just the president.

I don't understand the part about "(not necesarily)", though. I seriously doubt that the new members of the congress are at all interested in just getting something accomplished and then getting the hell out. They're just career politicians at the beginning of their careers.

I seriously doubt that the new members of the congress are at all interested in just getting something accomplished and then getting the hell out. They're just career politicians at the beginning of their careers.