Originally posted by menokokoro
awesome! so he SHOULD know more, but we dont KNOW if he can...thats lame. If he can open all, or even 5 (isn't that what lee did in the exams?) he would win easily.
Originally posted by King Kandywell, the way I saw it is that Kakashi learned to release the gates from Lee, so along with that, the 5th gate. and its been a while since that point in time, so thats why I think even further.
Why should he know more? The first gate is just the front lotus... Lee learned that long before he learned reverse lotus.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Indeed. With 1 finger. Problem is I don't know if he'd be able to react to it fast enough. Kakashi had to use his sharingan to keep up with it.
But Naruto has one of the fastest speed feats while in Sage Mode.
It isn't exactly defined at which is faster: Sage Mode or 5-Gates Lee/Gai.
Originally posted by dadudemon
But Naruto has one of the fastest speed feats while in Sage Mode.It isn't exactly defined at which is faster: Sage Mode or 5-Gates Lee/Gai.
I'm aware of this.
Being faster doesn't really mean much. 5-Gates was a super fast attack that Kakashi had to observe with his sharingan.
I have no doubt that Naruto in Sage Mode could keep up with it. I do doubt that he'll be able to react fast enough.
Originally posted by menokokoro
Also, we don't know if that is the reason he used his sharengan, i just thought it was so he could learn the gates
If he could recognize the gates, why would he need to copy it? He's clearly seen it before and could have copied it then.
Then there is Neji also using the Byakugan to keep up with it while also being surprised. And he can't exactly copy it.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelWhy do you say that he "clearly" has seen it before? Just cuz he recognized it doesn't mean he has seen it, he could have known about it and then connected the dots when he saw lee.
If he could recognize the gates, why would he need to copy it? He's clearly seen it before and could have copied it then.Then there is Neji also using the Byakugan to keep up with it while also being surprised. And he can't exactly copy it.
Neji? really? you are comparing Gennin Neji, with byakugan which isn't an eye technique to copy techs, to Jonin++ Kakashi who is famous for copying techniques with his Sharengan? Neji isn't as experienced as Kakashi, so of course he would have to use his eyes to keep up, Gai didn't have to use an eye tech to keep up, nor did the Jounin reff or the Hokage.
Originally posted by menokokoro
well, the way I saw it is that Kakashi learned to release the gates from Lee, so along with that, the 5th gate. and its been a while since that point in time, so thats why I think even further.
Originally posted by King KandyWhy is that ludicrous? They weren't on a team together, they never seriously fought, I'm not saying that there is no way he could have seen it, I'm just saying it's not far off to say he hadn't until then. ALSO! We don't know if the writer thought of that either, and really, thats all that matters in this argument.
He was Gai's rival and friend for years, the idea that he had never seen the technique used before is, imo, ludicrous.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Sage Mode Naruto would crush five Gates. >=(
Originally posted by dadudemon
But Naruto has one of the fastest speed feats while in Sage Mode.It isn't exactly defined at which is faster: Sage Mode or 5-Gates Lee/Gai.
7 Gates Gai blows Sage Mode Naruto out of the water. uhuh
But I'd take Sage Mode over having the ability to open 7 Gates, any day. Now opening 7 Gates while in Sage Mode...