Originally posted by KingD19Hulk is stronger and smarter. we've seen him wade trhough sentry's energy manipulation, BM isn't taking him.
Marvel also took it to Hyperion.And Namor said the only people who ever hit him as hard as Blue Marvel were Hulk and Thor.
Long story short, Marvel is about as strong as someone can get in the Marvel universe, he's a super genius, and he has high end energy manip powers. He takes a majority.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Dont try to back track now, you said Thing could put Thanos down/do damage physically..and i put you straight making you look a fool. Then again didnt you say Colossus is a physical match for Superman...A weaker Thanos punked Thor and the Avengers at once, so it aint no great shakes. Thanos matches Juggs Physically, Juggs dont have the power to put down Thanos.
She Hulk, Depowered Juggs and Thing are not high end guys, you miss you fact that Thanos is leagues above them in terms of striking power, therefore doing more damage and wouldnt let up like Dr Strange did giving him chance to heal.
lulzWhat a sad desperate loser you are, the only way Hulk pushes Thanos shit in is if a moron writes it like Pak.
Nah Snetry used the same amount of physical force in both fights. They traded blows when Hulk was trying to talk to him, all that was after Hulk had 7 free shots that did virtually nothing.
In Blood and Thunder Thor was on a warpath, and said he'd kill anybody that stood in his way, plus he didnt put Surfer down with nowhere near the ease Thanos did, Surfer gave Thor a fight.
Only 3rd parties said he was holding back, and he clearly wasnt holding back against Miek, thats why the Warbound had to drag him off twice, after the first time he fought his way back through them just to stomp Miek whilst he was prone on the floor.
More like 4/10
Re-read my post about thing and thanos. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand what I was saying. I even put in quotation mark that thanos would not get any damage from a punch from thing.
I never said that colossus is a physical match for supes but what I did say is that glads, superman, and thor isn't tanking a punch from colossus due to colossus history.
I'm done with you nihilst... your mind is made up about thanos and your understanding of things are TERRIBLE.
Back on topic, wwh 8 or possibly 9/10.
Originally posted by Naija boyThis. Not to say that he can't blitz, but this is (for better or worse) a feats based forum and we haven't seen Adam do a legit speed blitz yet. Also, I can't see him slugging it out with the current Hulk for long and his antimatter powers are still too vague to gauge properly.
Ive yet to see BM display any significat blitzing capacity in battle and he would need that for sure if he wanted to beat Hulk in a straight physical confrontation.Hulk wins
Originally posted by carver9Stop lying again, you know what you said and meant.
[B]Re-read my post about thing and thanos. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand what I was saying. I even put in quotation mark that thanos would not get any damage from a punch from thing.
I never said that colossus is a physical match for supes but what I did say is that glads, superman, and thor isn't tanking a punch from colossus due to colossus history.PR even pulled you on your stupid remark about Colossus/Superman.
I'm done with you nihilst... your mind is made up about thanos and your understanding of things are TERRIBLE.IOW you cant counter anything and have no come back, run along then chump.
Back on topic, wwh 8 or possibly 9/10.Nah, BM takes 6/10
Originally posted by Nihilist
Stop lying again, you know what you said and meant.PR even pulled you on your stupid remark about Colossus/Superman.
IOW you cant counter anything and have no come back, run along then chump.
Nah, BM takes 6/10
Lol... you are hilarious.
I know what I said and I know what I meant.
Why would I say that thing can damage thanos when I said that thanos could pull a 10/10 one on one with his powers against superman, gladiator, wwh, hyperion, martian manhunter, hell, I even gave him a majority against superBOY prime. With that said, you are basically implying that I am saying thing is greater than everyone that I mentioned. Is this what you are saying?
PR didn't call nothing out. I told pr that due to colossus history, his punches should be able to affect the people on that list and one of the peeps was supes... he disagreed and we went back and forth... I gave up on the topic because it wasn't going anywhere.
I can counter everything that you said but like I told you before, its pointless... so accept your victory.
Wwh 8/10... I want to give hulk 9/10 but I like blue marvel.
Originally posted by carver9Not half as funny as you and your logic
[B]Lol... you are hilarious.
I know what I said and I know what I meant.You sure, as you dont seem to know what you are talking about half the time.
Why would I say that thing can damage thanos when I said that thanos could pull a 10/10 one on one with his powers against superman, gladiator, wwh, hyperion, martian manhunter, hell, I even gave him a majority against superBOY prime. With that said, you are basically implying that I am saying thing is greater than everyone that I mentioned. Is this what you are saying?You said Thing could knock Thanos on his ass with 1 punch due to Thanos "showings" against Spiderman and Gamora.
PR didn't call nothing out. I told pr that due to colossus history, his punches should be able to affect the people on that list and one of the peeps was supes... he disagreed and we went back and forth... I gave up on the topic because it wasn't going anywhere.He facepalmed you and you tried to explin your zany logic.
I can counter everything that you said but like I told you before, its pointlessSure you can thats why your running away coward....
so accept your victory.This debate was won for me before we started as you go into every thread with HULK STOMP CARVER SMASH attitude.
Wwh 8/10... I want to give hulk 9/10 but I like blue marvel.So you give wins on who you like more and not logic and feats 👆
Originally posted by dmills
This. Not to say that he can't blitz, but this is (for better or worse) a feats based forum and we haven't seen Adam do a legit speed blitz yet. Also, I can't see him slugging it out with the current Hulk for long and his antimatter powers are still too vague to gauge properly.
👆 exactly. No way BM can take current Hulk in a straight up physical slugfest.
Originally posted by dmillsThis seems logical. Not that I think Adam can't beat Hulk, but I think we need to see a little more of his range. Judging from what he is and the source/description of his powers, I would say he should be able to beat the Hulk.
This. Not to say that he can't blitz, but this is (for better or worse) a feats based forum and we haven't seen Adam do a legit speed blitz yet. Also, I can't see him slugging it out with the current Hulk for long and his antimatter powers are still too vague to gauge properly.
His powers are currently, pretty vague. This works against him, but also works for him, because the little bit we know, leaves a lot to ponder. If he truly has access to the kind of power that has been hinted at, the possibilities are "top-tier". And, by that, I mean that it would place BM well out of Hulks earth-bound slug-fest capabilities, and put him with the big boys.
Not just physical power and energy blasts. It could turn out to be high-level manipulation of energy, matter, time and space.
That is, of course, IF he meets up with a decent writer that isn't content to continue pumping out Wonder Man, Superman or Hulk clones.
I think this thread should be classified as a "to be continued", or "not enough data".
Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos showings of durability and striking power and WWH's not so great showings against anyone of a decent lvl say Thanos can beat Hulk in a brawl.Blue Marvel isnt just a brawler as shown when he beat Anti Man. Blue Marvel out punched Sentry(and the Avengers at the same time), and the Sentry was being pushed to his limits(his own words). BM even temp koed Sentry, something WWH couldnt do despite 7 free shots.
Good point...Blue Marvel should seriously make a come back. I don't know what's up with Marvel.