Hulk vs. Blue Marvel

Started by JakeTheBank7 pages
Originally posted by mighty adam
you know savage hulk feats. Billion ton mountain, clapped out a cosmos, etc etc. Wwh didn't do anything I cant or haven't seen feasible for Savagehulk.

Savage Hulk's high end feats don't make him more powerful than a Hulk whose average was consistently higher than Savage's and who was shown - repeatedly - to be operating a whole other level than he ever did before. Just look at how Green Scar treated "rivals" to Savage Hulk for one. And Green Scar's high end feats are so stupid, it's ridiculous.

I honestly don't see how anyone can read any of Pak's stuff and not get to the very obvious point that he was making.

Originally posted by mighty adam
wwh got slapped up by juggs had to bfr him. Ghost hurt him its on panel saying could have beat him but he was innocent. Had a shitty fight vs sentry that took out a city block wow and got beat by a satellite. Wwh wasn't as impressive as any other hulk. Warhulk was more impressive. Hotm hulk was amp by a wishing well one time trick like warhulk.
Juggernaut got halted, had his helmet dented, and basically got tooled in the end. Ghost Rider got curbstomped and Zarathos seemed to start singing him with hellfire but ultimately passed on engaging him. Sentry went all-out in a fashion never seen before on-panel and the only thing that stopped Hulk was a plot device ray specifically designed for him. Hulk was not amped by the wishing well during Heart of the Monster. Everybody else was.

These are simple facts. And you're incorrect about many of them. This explains your erroneous position and it also answers my query.

Tell ODG to stuff it Mighty Adam, you've got him right were you want hm buddy. He doesn't know anything.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Savage Hulk's high end feats don't make him more powerful than a Hulk whose average was consistently higher than Savage's and who was shown - repeatedly - to be operating a whole other level than he ever did before. Just look at how Green Scar treated "rivals" to Savage Hulk for one. And Green Scar's high end feats are so stupid, it's ridiculous.

I honestly don't see how anyone can read any of Pak's stuff and not get to the very obvious point that he was making.

I do agree on wwh being on a whole other LV mentality then savage, more focused, smarter fighter. Still savage hulk has feats just as if not more impressive then wwh.

Originally posted by dmills
Tell ODG to stuff it Mighty Adam, you've got him right were you want hm buddy. He doesn't know anything.

😂

Originally posted by ODG
Juggernaut got halted, had his helmet dented, and basically got tooled in the end. Ghost Rider got curbstomped and Zarathos seemed to start singing him with hellfire but ultimately passed on engaging him. Sentry went all-out in a fashion never seen before on-panel and the only thing that stopped Hulk was a plot device ray specifically designed for him. Hulk was not amped by the wishing well during Heart of the Monster. Everybody else was.

These are simple facts. And you're incorrect about many of them. This explains your erroneous position and it also answers my query.

I doubt we was reading the same comic. Either your trolling me or your a delusional.

Originally posted by mighty adam
I doubt we was reading the same comic. Either your trolling me or your a delusional.
You read comics?
Originally posted by dmills
Tell ODG to stuff it Mighty Adam, you've got him right were you want hm buddy. He doesn't know anything.

Originally posted by mighty adam
I do agree on wwh being on a whole other LV mentality then savage, more focused, smarter fighter. Still savage hulk has feats just as if not more impressive then wwh.

😂

WWH doesn't have to repeat every ft Savage Hulk performed to prove he is stronger than his weaker incarnation. That's like saying Grey Hulk is stronger than War Hulk who was amped off of Celestial power. Grey Hulk destroyed an asteroid twice the size of Earth whereas War Hulk didn't do anything close to this. That's when we use common sense. Common sense tell us that even though Grey Hulk have a ft that piss on most High Heralds fts, including War Hulk, that still doesn't mean that he is stronger than War Hulk who was stated on panel as being one of the strongest Hulks during that era.

This doesn't include the fact that Loeb Rulk STOMPED Savage Hulk TWICE and WWH defeated Loeb Rulk with a mere thunder clap.

Originally posted by mighty adam
I doubt we was reading the same comic. Either your trolling me or your a delusional.

Lol...everything ODG said is true. Post scans proving him wrong.

Originally posted by carver9
This doesn't include the fact that Loeb Rulk STOMPED Savage Hulk TWICE and WWH defeated Loeb Rulk with a mere thunder clap.

I still can't believe that's how that fight ended. After all the trolling that Rulk did to the MU, Banner ko's him with a phucking thunderclap and a rather casual one at that. Under loeb's pen no less so it left no doubt.

Originally posted by dmills
I still can't believe that's how that fight ended. After all the trolling that Rulk did to the MU, Banner ko's him with a phucking thunderclap and a rather casual one at that. Under loeb's pen no less so it left no doubt.

I know, it was insane. I don't think Pak cared after the WWH arc. He just went on a ft war with the Hulk.

You can look threw the comic to see hulk getting trashed by juggs then bfr him. Strange saying ghost rider could beat hulk cuz his power is boundless but since hulk was the innocent one ghost left. The lack lusted fight with sentry. Yes it was stated on panel the wwh was the strongest vs of hulk. Sentry also has the power of million exploding suns lol that shit was never shown not even close. I'm not saying wwh is weaker the savage just he didn't shit on savage feats.

I wonder how well Blue Marvel would do against the current Hulk?

Hulk would stomp him and KMC would be drowned in a choir of Sentry fanboy winging.

Hulk is about to take on the entirety of the Avengers soon and hold his own. This alone should tell you what tier he is in right now.

Originally posted by janus77
Hulk would stomp him and KMC would be drowned in a choir of Sentry fanboy winging.

The Hulk can be taken down if he isn't completely in the zone. He ramps up slowly in comparison to the Green Scar version of the Hulk. Who was able to ramp up within that very same moment. I'm not too sure about Doc. Green though.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk can be taken down if he isn't completely in the zone. He ramps up slowly in comparison to the Green Scar version of the Hulk. Who was able to ramp up within that very same moment. I'm not too sure about Doc. Green though.

From what we've seen of him so far, he's far more cunning and ruthless than Green Scar.

He was fighting that Swamp Thing like monster whilst at the same time attempting to cure her. All his blows were measured and with a purpose other than "smashing her".

Against IM, we saw how casually he tore apart everything IM tried.

I don't recall any instance where Doc Green's lacked for rapid amping.

If Savage Hulk is in continuity right now, then this is even more interesting as he gets smarter as he gets angrier (and again, no depictions of him having trouble getting amped) and at higher wattages he demonstrates huge TK.

Dunno, I think Savage Hulk = Thor/Gladiator etc.
And WWH/Doc Green are obviously far stronger than that.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is about to take on the entirety of the Avengers soon and hold his own. This alone should tell you what tier he is in right now.

Savage Hulk tier?

Why do people forget that during his early days, as Savage Hulk, he used to take on the entire Avengers roster fairly frequently and hold out.

Yeah current Hulk/any Hulk since around House of M, should be far more effective than that, but still... Savage Hulk did that, frequently.

Originally posted by janus77
From what we've seen of him so far, he's far more cunning and ruthless than Green Scar.

He was fighting that Swamp Thing like monster whilst at the same time attempting to cure her. All his blows were measured and with a purpose other than "smashing her".

Against IM, we saw how casually he tore apart everything IM tried.

I don't recall any instance where Doc Green's lacked for rapid amping.

If Savage Hulk is in continuity right now, then this is even more interesting as he gets smarter as he gets angrier (and again, no depictions of him having trouble getting amped) and at higher wattages he demonstrates huge TK.

Dunno, I think Savage Hulk = Thor/Gladiator etc.
And WWH/Doc Green are obviously far stronger than that.

Pagan lost to Blue marvel, and Pagan looked to be stronger than Thor from where I stood. Sungod pulped the Hulk. He has his good moments, but he stil has bad ones too. You forget that BM isn't in the Wonder Man league.