Are soldiers 'heroes'

Originally posted by Big Member
Notoriousa is right pal, it's tainted!'

No, it's not. An act is not bound by past actions. It stands alone as right or wrong in it's own regard.

Originally posted by Pinkie Pie
Still wrong, though. Mustn't neglect 😛

Killing innocents or unjustly is wrong. Killing to protect them is right.

Originally posted by TacDavey
No, it's not. An act is not bound by past actions. It stands alone as right or wrong in it's own regard.

Of course the past taints the present and the future. Only a fool believes in redemption, that or a Christian.

Originally posted by Big Member
Of course the past taints the present and the future. Only a fool believes in redemption, that or a Christian.

I am a Christian. And that's completely irrelevant. We are talking about ACTS, not PEOPLE. An act does not require redemption because it is not bound by past actions. A person is bound by past actions. An ACT is not.

And the discussion of redemption is another topic for another thread. Not that that matters, as you are obviously trolling at this point...

EDIT: Account restricted right after I finished posting. I thought so.

Some soldiers are double heroes, for being in the army and openly gay.

Not always, but as a general rule yes

the fact that they are soldiers, by itself, does not make them heroes at all

It depends.

Soldiers that fought against the Axis in WW2 were indeed heroes, soldiers that fight in Afghanistan and Iraq are not heroes.

No, their not heroes generally. They have to do something first, like others have said to earn such a claim. Becoming a soldier is not simply the choice to fight for freedom or some such idealistic nonsense, it could simply be a career decision or a influenced (friends, family, upbringing) decision based on previous experiances. There does not have to be any real reason behind something, I know several soldiers, one being a veteran in hot zones and some of them simply claim that the risks involved and the adrenaline is more than enough to give reason to the job. Its not just an overwhelming love for their country.

Also Sakaswan, why are those soldiers heroes? but not modern soldiers?

No they are not heroes.

Heroes are the ones who save the most lives. Even if they have to kill someone, you know, as long as they have a good save/kill ratio.

..but what if they're saving bad people? Damn...

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Heroes are the ones who save the most lives. Even if they have to kill someone, you know, as long as they have a good save/kill ratio.

..but what if they're saving bad people? Damn...

Soldiers don't do much saving, they do however go into countries that don't want them and interfere, often getting themselves blown up in the process.

Originally posted by Gustavo Fring
Soldiers don't do much saving, they do however go into countries that don't want them and interfere, often getting themselves blown up in the process.

That isn't the soldiers fault. It's the people sending them there.

Originally posted by TacDavey
That isn't the soldiers fault. It's the people sending them there.

Well, I dispute that as they signed up and made their choice to follow orders and become involved in illegal actions etc.

Originally posted by Gustavo Fring
Soldiers don't do much saving, they do however go into countries that don't want them and interfere, often getting themselves blown up in the process.

"Marine bends rules to save dog found in Iraq"

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/33585208/ns/today-today_pets_and_animals/t/marine-bends-rules-save-dog-found-iraq/#.TpclS7KLPzc

Originally posted by Robtard
"Marine bends rules to save dog found in Iraq"

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/33585208/ns/today-today_pets_and_animals/t/marine-bends-rules-save-dog-found-iraq/#.TpclS7KLPzc

Hahahahahahaha!