Moon Knight Vs Sabretooth

Started by -K-M-8 pages

Originally posted by Juk3n
Whats the conclusion to that then? He's either more formidable than Shang and Danny combined, or it was a PIS showing for either DD (lowend) or MK ( high end).

doesn't really help MK's case here. What has he got in the way of devices that would be more damaging than say, a grenade launcher round to the chest?

Ok?

Darts that have taken down buildings before, and sonics that made Hulk reel in serious amounts of pain

Iron Fist/Shang Chi vs. Daredevil

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/SL_3_Legion_CPS_010.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/SL_3_Legion_CPS_012.jpg
3. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/SL_3_Legion_CPS_014.jpg
4. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/SL_3_Legion_CPS_015.jpg
5. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/SL_3_Legion_CPS_016.jpg

Moon Knight (without his armor and weapons) vs. Daredevil (even sucker punched him)

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/SLMK_2_Legion_CPS_008.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/SLMK_2_Legion_CPS_009.jpg
3. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/SLMK_2_Legion_CPS_010.jpg
4. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/SLMK_2_Legion_CPS_011.jpg

Beauty seems I already uploaded them and forgot.

Danny didn't even try to attack him.

MN got his ass kicked and punched him once.

Originally posted by Mindset
Danny didn't even try to attack him.

MN got his ass kicked and punched him once.

Yes he tried they even mention in the next issue they were no match for him

Yep and he put him through a wall (and spit out blood), while they couldn't even hit DD. Also DD sucker punched MK and that was a defenceless MK too.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yes he tried they even mention in the next issue they were no match for him

Yep and he put him through a wall (and spit out blood), while they couldn't even hit DD. Also DD sucker punched MK and that was a defenceless MK too.

Did they ever show it?

Cool, he put him through a wall.

Originally posted by Mindset
Did they ever show it?

Cool, he put him through a wall.

What? them saying they were no match? Yeah, the following issue as Shang Chi called Matt the true master of kung fu

and made him spit out blood, which neither even came close to doing or even hitting him 🙂

Whoops sorry wasn't in SL #4 Shang said it, it was in a tie-in.

I'll see if I can pull up the scan. Sorry for the confusion.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yes he tried they even mention in the next issue they were no match for him

Yep and he put him through a wall (and spit out blood), while they couldn't even hit DD. Also DD sucker punched MK and that was a defenceless MK too.

At some point we have to agree on what reality is.

I would be "no match" for someone if I was trying to confront them with kid gloves and trying to figure out just what the hell was going on while they were attempting to pulverize me. But that isn't an accurate display of my fighting ability when I'm really in a fight.

Danny's actions did not dictate that he was effectively fighting BeastDevil. While Shang Chi did try to engage BD we have no idea to what extent that was. Was he amping himself to Spidey Levels? Who knows.. But while you can make an argument for Shang Chi at least attempting to attack BD you can't make the same argument for Fist.. because he.. just. didn't. 😬

Your Moon Knight pictures are pretty impressive though but I don't know if we can really compare the two examples. It's hard to say because IF didn't get pounded into a corner and forced into retaliation. Though I don't think one ineffective punch is really a clear display that he did better than anyone against BeastDevil even if it did send him through a wall.

As for this fight.

Personally (and I'm going to be completely honest here) I haven't been reading Moon Knight for about the last 1 or 2 years now. I haven't kept up with him in any other books either so if he has a lot more suped up tech I'm not aware of, or powerups I missed, than I can only apologize for my ignorance.

My issue at this moment lies in the fact that while, I haven't kept up with MK recently (or any other comics for that matter) I was well familiarized with him for years and have pretty much the majority of his appearances in one fashion or another.

Thing is... As far as I ever saw, and this included when he was strictly superhuman with the waxes and wanes of the moon, and Adamantium armor... He was never geared up enough or enhanced enough to legitimately think about taking Sabretooth in a forum fight.
So it's a stretch of my imagination to think that this has completely 180'd in the last 2 years. To think that he's gone from an above average B/C lister to a full on threat against a tank like Sabres is hard to accept at the face value of a few statements.
Also...
You've made some statements about his gear being building busting and having better armor than his Adamantium stuff?

I think it would be terrific if you could provide some scans of this stuff in action and show it being his standard fare (if that's possible)...

Because as far as the armor; it's Carbonadium? Omega Red has Carbonadium armor stacked on top of superhuman durability and a healing factor and he wasn't too happy at getting slammed around by Sabretooth.
While MK may have some armor to what extent does it work? What would result in Creed slamming him back and forth or smashing him into the ground. Could he take Creed punching him in the face?
Is it Carbonadium from head to toe, or in segmented sections like some versions of his Adamantium costume have been shown to be?

You laughed at people for giving Creed a heavy majority in this fight. What kind of odds to you give him then... and why?

BTW.. you're sig is creepy... 😐

Here's Shang and Iron Fist talking about DD's new skill and how IF commented he matched the Iron Fist. It's not the be all feat, hence my shifty smile after my original comment on it
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/SL_3_Legion_CPS_029.jpg

Oh I laughed at the 9/10 and 10/10 comments, and saying he has no chance. Concerning the odds it depends on what he brings and if this is adamantium Sabretooth or not.

Yeah in his new series he commented his current armor is better then his adamantium armor he had in vol.3. The armor is head to toe as he even used his armor to brace a falling building (holding it up), while he stepped out of it and fought in his underwear (and yes it did happen haha). I'll see about scans, anything in particular you care to see?

It was durable enough to hold up a building, with his tech moon knight probably takes about 4/10 close fights.

MK can take some wins with his tech, but he better not engage in CQC. Might not end well for him.

Originally posted by SamZED
MK can take some wins with his tech, but he better not engage in CQC. Might not end well for him.
I mean he does have a couple of gadgets that work well in close quarters and he has the carbonadium suit that leaves only his head open, he did cut deadpool to pieces but yea thats where sabretooth gets his wins from, the CQC

MK took repeated punches to the head from some brick, that was pretty impressive.

Originally posted by Trackz
I mean he does have a couple of gadgets that work well in close quarters and he has the carbonadium suit that leaves only his head open, he did cut deadpool to pieces but yea thats where sabretooth gets his wins from, the CQC
tbh it had a lot to do with DP's CIS. But yes MK is better equiped than Wade and can take ST in cqc with adamantium sword, but imo not for majority.

Originally posted by SamZED
tbh it had a lot to do with DP's CIS.

He did fight back for a while, mostly off-panel. C'mon, everytime DP says a joke, he isn't going all out?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He did fight back for a while, mostly off-panel. C'mon, everytime DP says a joke, he isn't going all out?
Didnt mean the jokes. He didnt use a single weapon throughout the two issues. Or even wanted to. Only after MK pulled out the sword. For some reason Wade wanted to talk that one out. MK was bloodlusted, DP wasn't. Plus adamantim sword > DP's sword. Not taking anything from MK. He won, end of story. Jst saying Deadpool wasnt exactly fighting to his best. Or written that well.

Originally posted by SamZED
Didnt mean the jokes. He didnt use a single weapon throughout the two issues. Only after MK pulled out the sword. MK was bloodlusted, DP wasn't. Plus adamantim sword > DP's sword. Not taking anything from MK. He won, end of story. Jst saying Deadpool wasnt exactly fighting to his best. Or written that well.

I asked you before to provide proof that sword was indeed made of adamantium sly

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I asked you before to provide proof that sword was indeed made of adamantium sly
You did? When? 😕 Pretty sure all MK's current weapons are adamantium.

Originally posted by SamZED
You did? When? 😕 Pretty sure all MK's current weapons are adamantium.

A long time ago. Can't even remember what thread that was 😛

What makes you so sure? The only evidence that might support your stance is the issue written by Loeb in which Spector's crescent darts pierced Fixit's hide.