Moon Knight Vs Sabretooth

Originally posted by -K-M-
I agree with most of what you said, but FYI MK is a high level sword user has been since vol.2 and shown more often recently in secret avengers. Im sure the armor definetly helped in his sword battle with DP though

How is that "for my information"? 🤨

No one's arguing that he's got a helping handful of skills.

What's being argued by me is that Deadpool should never lose in a sword fight against MK....
Hell I honestly don't believe that Wolverine should win a sword fight against DP, and his sword feats are heads and shoulders above MK and far more consistent.

The armor would HAVE to have played the deciding factor in that fight...

As far as this whole CIS issue is concerned, I think it's pretty clear that DP was playing around.. A LOT.

There's way too many insinuations in that writing to simply dismiss the notion that MK was unloading on Wade. The start of the fight has him questioning how long he can "hold back", and it looks like a lighbulb goes off as soon as DP tells him he can't be killed.

If that tells anyone anything it's that he was itching to blow off some steam and didn't have to restrict or restrain himself.. like... at all.

As Sam already said, anyone who's read more than 2 issues of DP would be able to figure out that Wade wasn't performing anywhere near his best or even trying to approach it for that matter.

If you want to use the example to show some of MK's armor in action, and insinuate he has sword skill as well as a sword which seeming came out of no where, then that's fine.
Otherwise though, DP was handled horribly in that particular fight if you want to use it as evidence of anything pretaining to DP. It's an out and out lowball and easily ignored in contrast to his entire career.

Now again... if MK is so suped up.. how does Sabretooth win?

How can Creed get past MK's armor?

Originally posted by SamZED
Doesnt matter if he stopped or not, he already stabbed DP enough times to kill an elephant. Because he knew DP can take it, so MK didnt have to restrain himself. THAT was the point. While Deadpool's CIS was still on and he would've never even tried to do the same to MK. Common knowledge.

Which means - MK was going all out, Deadpool wasnt. A big advantage for MK.

Moon Knight isn't exactly viewed as a good guy, he's viewed more as the Punisher and Deadpool almost killed him in their fights.

also this should probably be taken elsewhere

Originally posted by Trackz
Moon Knight isn't exactly viewed as a good guy, he's viewed more as the Punisher and Deadpool almost killed him in their fights.

Nope MK is a long away from Punisher (there are some similarities) thats why Daredevil actually wanted MK to team up with him to hunt the Punisher. They team up from time to time that don't mean hes viewed like the Punisher.

In their last fight DP didn't nearly kill Punisher and he was using blunt force trauma so he could let rip more. DP doesn't kill good guys anymore, and he didn't want to kill Punisher either.

I dunno this is related to the topic of the thread.

Originally posted by Deadline
Nope MK is a long away from Punisher (there are some similarities) thats why Daredevil actually wanted MK to team up with him to hunt the Punisher. They team up from time to time that don't mean hes viewed like the Punisher.

In their last fight DP didn't nearly kill Punisher and he was using blunt force trauma so he could let rip more. DP doesn't kill good guys anymore, and he didn't want to kill Punisher either.

I dunno this is related to the topic of the thread.

remember when DP pulled him out and they fell a couple of stories, that could've possibly killed punisher

and it's not

DP can get carried away (especially after getting electrocuted) but he'd never on purpose kill good guys. Even when he was an ordinary merc he'd only take hits if he believed the target deserved to die. Sure his understanding of good is pretty twisted but despite their track record, MK and Frank are the good guys to him. Besides he just met MK when he was trying to save the guy Wade was hired to kill. A thing only a hero would do.

Originally posted by SamZED
DP can get carried away (especially after getting electrocuted) but he'd never on purpose kill good guys. Even when he was an ordinary merc he'd only take hits if he believed the target deserved to die. Sure his understanding of good is pretty twisted but despite their track record, MK and Frank are the good guys to him. Besides he just met MK when he was trying to save the guy Wade was hired to kill. A thing only a hero would do.

Originally posted by Trackz
Didn't he kill a pizza guy? ahaha

Originally posted by Trackz
moon knight was viewed as a maniac by the public when he first came back and spiderman went off on him too because of the way he mutilated his enemies.

Ok wasn't aware of that but still theres a reason why Steve wanted MK on the Secret Avengers and not Punisher, MK by and large for his whole career isn't as bad as Punisher.

Originally posted by Trackz

remember when DP pulled him out and they fell a couple of stories, that could've possibly killed punisher

Unlikely. I'm talking about there last fight anwyay. DP doesn't kill good guys anymore, he did back then.

Originally posted by Trackz

and it's not

Of course it is.

Originally posted by Trackz
Didn't he kill a pizza guy? ahaha

I don't think he deserved to die, but that guy was a basterd. Thats why DP is an anti-hero.

Originally posted by -K-M-
I am, because he has already made inaccruate comments and made comments about things never said in the comic or shown. So why would I take it face value?

So does MK, but to say DP could only beat MK by killing him so he wouldn't try is down right laughable. Then he made the claim that because DP didn't use his other weapons he must be holding back...while in the fight MK only used his sword so he must have been holding back following that logic as well.

I think the problem is that because part of his argument is faulty you are then generalising and acting like his whole argument is faulty. Stating that he was holding back because he wasn't using certain weapons is faulty etc but not the rest of his argument.

You're kinda dodging the point we don't need any on panel evidence because its already been established in other issues that he doesn't kill good guys.

Originally posted by -K-M-

Mk didn't even want to kill DP that's the point and when DP said unkle he stopped.

No it isn't though. The point is that MK realised that DP had a HF so he could use lethal force and didn't need to hold back. DP can't use lethal force and on top of that he's fighting a skilled opponent with armour. Him stopping is irrelevant because he was already using lethal force. MK stopping just indcates he didn't want to prolong DP's agony, MK had already won why carry on chopping him up?

Originally posted by Deadline
Ok wasn't aware of that but still theres a reason why Steve wanted MK on the Secret Avengers and not Punisher, MK by and large for his whole career isn't as bad as Punisher.

Unlikely. I'm talking about there last fight anwyay. DP doesn't kill good guys anymore, he did back then.

He might not kill good guys that doesn't mean he won't go off on them, case in point his fight with Steve Rogers

Originally posted by Trackz
Steve was kinda pulling a thuderbolt thing to a lesser extent, letting certain heroes redeem themselves, and word had probably gotten out that Moon Knight was rehabilitated to an extent. Steve allowed ant-man on his team too.

Thats all you need to say really. Remember MK was also an Avenger once.

Originally posted by Trackz

He might not kill good guys that doesn't mean he won't go off on them, case in point his fight with Steve Rogers

It's harder to let off when you're using a sword, you have to be more careful. Its even harder to do that when the guy is wearing armour and hes willing to use lethal force and you're not.

Originally posted by Deadline
Thats all you need to say really. Remember MK was also an Avenger once.

It's harder to let off when you're using a sword, you have to be more careful. Its even harder to do that when the guy is wearing armour and hes willing to use lethal force and you're not.

Deadpool was using a sword against Steve Rogers, also we can't really tell if DP was using lethal force seeing as even if he was it wouldn't have done damage.

During Civil War Captain America tracked down MK and told him he didn't like him and to watch is back and another time he said he didn't trust MK.

While Cap worked with Punisher during Civil War. Also during the start of Secret Avengers Punisher was Frankencastle