Moon Knight Vs Sabretooth

Started by SamZED8 pages

Originally posted by Trackz
hasn't that happened before? I mean I remember once in the main Deadpool series he fainted after getting his leg chopped off.
in one of the latest team ups he on purpose cut both of his legs off to blend in with a circus crowd and was just fine. But you are right, that did happen, was written by Way and the guy is known for downplaying healing factors. And even his Deadpool was reattaching limbs and never needed medical attention.

So were rejecting all feats written by Way now?

Man, you have no idea what we were talking about. Where did I say that we should ignore any feats?

Originally posted by SamZED
Man, you have no idea what we were talking about. Where did I say that we should ignore any feats?

You didn't but certain posters seem to do that.

Originally posted by SamZED
in one of the latest team ups he on purpose cut both of his legs off to blend in with a circus crowd and was just fine. But you are right, that did happen, was written by Way and the guy is known for downplaying healing factors. And even his Deadpool was reattaching limbs and never needed medical attention.
I think he fainted when he got his leg cut off because he bled out before he could reattach the limb

yeah, it was the bloodloss. But pretty sure he walked like that on purpose for a long time. Was playing "pirate". Way is a great writer when it comes to skills, but he kinda hates healing factors.

Originally posted by SamZED
yeah, it was the bloodloss. But pretty sure he walked like that on purpose for a long time. Was playing "pirate". Way is a great writer when it comes to skills, but he kinda hates healing factors.

which I think spawns from fans (as in members of boards like this) back lash to venom on the run.

Originally posted by jinzin
Oy.....

Okay, I think we can ALL agree that Wade's swordplay shouldn't even be up for debate as to wheather or not it's superior than MKs... it should be. It's what he does, it's his entire career and it's not exactly like MK's on a higher tier of skill than DP either.

The issue treated DP's healing factor and swordplay like Open Season treated Sasquatch's healing factor and durability.

So let's not pretend as though that's the be all end all example of Wade vs. Marc in a sword fight... it was rubbish.

That said, sounds like MK has some vast upgrades since I dropped his title.
So how does Sabretooth win?

I agree with most of what you said, but FYI MK is a high level sword user has been since vol.2 and shown more often recently in secret avengers. Im sure the armor definetly helped in his sword battle with DP though

Originally posted by SamZED
He used his staff, his disks several times and sword. Its in his character. He rarely fights using all his arsenal at once. Whie Deadpool didnt fire a single bullet throughout the two issues. Anyone who's read more than two issues of Deadpool knows its out of his character.

And again.. no. The same logic CAN'T be applied to MK. Because at the end of the day, he was WILLING to cut DP to pieces. While DP wasnt trying to do the same to MK. Fact. More than that, he was fooling around (more than usually) so his CIS played a big part in his defeat.
Again, im not arguing that MK did great and won. He did. But actilng like CIS had nothing to do with it is ignoring the context, while actilng like the fight would've went the same way against say bloodlusted Deadpool is just wishfull thinking.

Most of those villains were fodder tbh.

Ummm lulz what fight did you read? Firstly he never used his staff, secondly he only used the darts once to destroy the mirrors and never used them on DP. So no your wrong he only used his sword on DP in that fight. You really should read it again as you are remembering it drastically wrong like your "DP having two swords comment"

haha no, he cut him up like DP wanted to do to him. The only difference is...MK won...DP didn't. Lulz your really grasping at straws, what basis do you have DP was fooling around? lulz you said MK was bloodlusted but that clearly wasn't the case. Your being a hypocrite.

Lulz, no they wern't

Originally posted by -K-M-
I agree with most of what you said, but FYI MK is a high level sword user has been since vol.2 and shown more often recently in secret avengers. Im sure the armor definetly helped in his sword battle with DP though

Ummm lulz what fight did you read? Firstly he never used his staff, secondly he only used the darts once to destroy the mirrors and never used them on DP. So no your wrong he only used his sword on DP in that fight. You really should read it again as you are remembering it drastically wrong like your "DP having two swords comment"

haha no, he cut him up like DP wanted to do to him. The only difference is...MK won...DP didn't. Lulz your really grasping at straws, what basis do you have DP was fooling around? lulz you said MK was bloodlusted but that clearly wasn't the case. Your being a hypocrite.

Lulz, no they wern't

Was talking about two issues in general. And yes MK did use the staff/stick call it whatever you want in the first issue. Key part, he was using weapons throughout the fights. Deadpool wasnt.

Ugh.. lets try once again. Again, you either fail to understand the context or do it on purpose. So ill try again.

Deadpool was not trying to cut/stab/gutt MK because getting stabbed/cut/gutted would kill him and Deadpool. doesnt. kill. good guys. ever. which was a disadvantage in the fight. While Moonknight wanted to gutt/stab/cut Deadpool seeing how he DID it and didnt mind doing it as DP doesnt die. Which was an advantage for MK. Heck I do not even complain about writer knowing jack about his HF, that's ok with me, happens. But CIS playing a large part in the fght shouldnt even be up to debate. Plus carbonadium armor for a sword fight. Not much to brag about really.

So again, context. MK going all out. Deadpool NOT going all out. = MK winning.

Yes, they were. C listers at best.

Originally posted by SamZED
Was talking about two issues in general. And yes MK did use the staff/stick call it whatever you want in the first issue. Key part, he was using weapons throughout the fights. Deadpool wasnt.

Too lasy to look for a face palm smilie, so just :facepalm: Again, you either fail to understand the context or do it on purpose. So ill try again.

Deadpool was not trying to vut/stab/gutt MK because getting stabbed/cut/gutted would kill him and Deadpool. doesnt. kill. good guys. which is a disadvantage. While Moonknight wanted to gutt/stab/cut Deadpool seeing how he DID it and didnt mind doing it as DP doesnt die. Which is an advantage. Heck I do not even complain about writer knowing jack about his HF, that's ok with me, happens. But CIS playing a large part in the fght shouldnt even be up to debate.

So again, context. MK going all out. Deadpool NOT going all out. = MK winning.

Yes, they were. C listers at best.

I have been talking about the one fight, and following your logic he could have used more weapons on DP...but he didn't so he must be holding back too. Also lulz if you think that's all the weapons MK has...so still following your logic MK was holding back. Awesome.

haha grasping at straws, no where was that stated or even implied. You think the only way DP could win is by killing MK?...so thus he would hold back? double lulz. He was egging MK on to fight him, he got his wish...but his wish turned into his nightmare..ouch.

haha so what factual basis do you have that MK was going all out while DP wasn't? is this like your mk has an adamantium sword comment?

What villians are you talking about?

Originally posted by -K-M-
I have been talking about the one fight, and following your logic he could have used more weapons on DP...but he didn't so he must be holding back too. Also lulz if you think that's all the weapons MK has...so still following your logic MK was holding back. Awesome.

haha grasping at straws, no where was that stated or even implied. You think the only way DP could win is by killing MK?...so thus he would hold back? double lulz. He was egging MK on to fight him, he got his wish...but his wish turned into his nightmare..ouch.

haha so what factual basis do you have that MK was going all out while DP wasn't? is this like your mk has an adamantium sword comment?

What villians are you talking about?

Which takes us back to my previous post. MK rarely uses ALL of his equipment at the same time. Its in his character. Doesnt mean he's holding back. He still used lots of his standart equip. While Deadpool uses guns/granades/machineguns all the time, but didnt with MK. And please stop saying lulz. Makes me feel like im talking to a schoolgirl or something.

facepalm at "nightmare"

It was both stated and implyed and shown on panel 100s of times that Deadpool doesnt kill good guys. How else would he beat MK with a sword other than killing him? Disrming him wouldnt have stopped the fight. Killing would've been an only option and killing is what Deadpool doesnt do to good guys. Hence the option goes down the tiolet. Simple as that. So no im not grasping at straws. Im listing facts you choose to ignore.

To put it simplier - MK had no reason to hold back as nothing he could do would permanently kill DP. While DP had a reason to hold back because he doesnt kill good guys. It was made 100% clear. Simple as 2+2.

Well, what villains are you talking about? If he's beaten a number of A list villains at the same time name them.

I think Sam has a point but I think DP could have at least been able to defend himself with the sword or wound MK, it looks like to me he got owned.

I don't think it was implied or shown on panel though.

Actually he does all his weapons (he hasnt used a sword in years) and good lord your repeating the same thing and actually still don't back up your claims. I'm done. Also your facts as you claim are opinion and not stated or even shown in the comic themselves as shown in this thread your credibility when it comes to "remembering" details is shaddy at best.

Originally posted by Deadline
I think Sam has a point but I think DP could have at least been able to defend himself with the sword or wound MK, it looks like to me he got owned.

I don't think it was implied or shown on panel though.

Oh I agree, but as Sam said stuff happened off-panel so maybe he did and we didnt see it

Bingo.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually he does all his weapons (he hasnt used a sword in years) and good lord your repeating the same thing and actually still don't back up your claims. I'm done. Also your facts as you claim are opinion and not stated or even shown in the comic themselves as shown in this thread your credibility when it comes to "remembering" details is shaddy at best.

I don't know, to an extent you're just ignoring him. DP was using a sword and he doesn't kill good guys. MK was using a sword and DP can't be killed, MK doesn't have a HF.

Originally posted by -K-M-

Bingo.

To be fair though I think its common knowledge now he doesn't kill good guys thats a given. I don't need any blatant evidence that if Punisher shoots at Spiderman hes aiming to wound or hes holding back because its been stated many times he doesn't kill good guys.

Originally posted by Deadline
I think Sam has a point but I think DP could have at least been able to defend himself with the sword or wound MK, it looks like to me he got owned.

I don't think it was implied or shown on panel though.

Thanks.

That's true but its not easy to make flesh wounds when most of MK's body is covered with armor and using defence alone wont do much good. Its eiter go for the kill or get killed yourself, and Dp would never kill MK. Hence the outcome of the fight.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually he does all his weapons (he hasnt used a sword in years) and good lord your repeating the same thing and actually still don't back up your claims. I'm done. Also your facts as you claim are opinion and not stated or even shown in the comic themselves as shown in this thread your credibility when it comes to "remembering" details is shaddy at best.
If I wanted to remember details I would've remembered things like poorly written HF, or that writer never wrote DP before or wasnt even familliar with him that much. But im ok with all that even. Only shows im not being biased here.

I repeat the same thing because I thought you didnt understand me. Its just the fact that MK won isnt good enough for you, you want to lowball other characters by arguing facts. Its not just my opinion, several people who read DP before told you the exact same thing about his CIS and can tell he was not going all out, while MK was.

Ill say this again, MK won, and im prefeclty fine with it. But I wont act like Deadpool was going all out when he clearly wasnt just to suit somebody's argument.

Sorry if you took it personal.

Originally posted by Deadline
I don't know, to an extent you're just ignoring him. DP was using a sword and he doesn't kill good guys. MK was using a sword and DP can't be killed, MK doesn't have a HF.

To be fair though I think its common knowledge now he doesn't kill good guys thats a given. I don't need any blatant evidence that if Punisher shoots at Spiderman hes aiming to wound or hes holding back because its been stated many times he doesn't kill good guys.

I am, because he has already made inaccruate comments and made comments about things never said in the comic or shown. So why would I take it face value?

So does MK, but to say DP could only beat MK by killing him so he wouldn't try is down right laughable. Then he made the claim that because DP didn't use his other weapons he must be holding back...while in the fight MK only used his sword so he must have been holding back following that logic as well. Mk didn't even want to kill DP that's the point and when DP said unkle he stopped.

Originally posted by Deadline
I don't know, to an extent you're just ignoring him.

Originally posted by -K-M-
I am

Says it all.

Originally posted by Deadline
DP was using a sword and he doesn't kill good guys. MK was using a sword and DP can't be killed, MK doesn't have a HF.
My whole point exactly. Its common knowledge. Glad some people debate with the knowledge about the character.

KM maybe you should respond to his post in the MK vs. DP thread.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Mk didn't even want to kill DP that's the point and when DP said unkle he stopped.

Doesnt matter if he stopped or not, he already stabbed DP enough times to kill an elephant. Because he knew DP can take it, so MK didnt have to restrain himself. THAT was the point. While Deadpool's CIS was still on and he would've never even tried to do the same to MK. Common knowledge.

Which means - MK was going all out, Deadpool wasnt. A big advantage for MK.