There are days it can be difficult to hold to freedom of speech.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Ay guey...I thought it was implied that I meant stereotypical extreme ones.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Ay guey...I thought it was implied that I meant stereotypical extreme ones.

It's not. When you attack a group as a whole, why would anyone assume you're only attacking one very small part of that group?

I hate apples!
Really? Granny Smith's are awesome.
I thought it was implied that I only meant Golden Delicious!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
For an incredibly narrow definition of feminist generally preferred by the mouth breathing Rush Limbaugh crowd.

But, he isn't one of those people. What bothers me most about people who are bright enough not to agree with the likes of Mr. Limbaugh or Beck or Hannity, are so glad to have them on their side. It allows them to cast anyone who disagrees with them as equally nuts as the people in their own tent. It's a way of saying they recognize insanity in their own party, while casting anyone who isn't as insane, retarded, mentally challenged, etc.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's not. When you attack a group as a whole, why would anyone assume you're only attacking one very small part of that group?

I hate apples!
Really? Granny Smith's are awesome.
I thought it was implied that I only meant Golden Delicious!

I did say mainly the more extreme ones and often, as opposed to "always", or "iron clad", or "100%", or "surefire".

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I did say mainly the more extreme ones and often, as opposed to "always", or "iron clad", or "100%", or "surefire".

but that isn't even true

feminists aren't "often" extreme, or even "likely to be". The ones that make news coverage, sure, almost certainly, because they conform to preconcieved notions of what a feminist is, and in turn, this becomes the "steryotypical" feminist you see in popular media, but feminism as a political movement and sociological theory is much broader.

Originally posted by inimalist
but that isn't even true

feminists aren't "often" extreme, or even "likely to be". The ones that make news coverage, sure, almost certainly, [b]because they conform to preconcieved notions of what a feminist is, and in turn, this becomes the "steryotypical" feminist you see in popular media, but feminism as a political movement and sociological theory is much broader. [/B]

A feminist is simply a woman who should be slapped more often. 😉

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
After watchin I can say that today is one of those days.

So it's O.K. for you to choose what you want to watch, but not for others to choose what to make?

Facking Nazi

Originally posted by Thanusisback
A feminist is simply a woman who should be slapped more often. 😉

if a woman even insinuated a joke like that, she would be labeled a "femi-nazi"

Originally posted by inimalist
if a woman even insinuated a joke like that, she would be labeled a "femi-nazi"

I though would ask said woman what her husband was doing letting her out of the Kitchen... Viva Islam!!!

insecurity, thy name is man

Film's actually quite solid for what it is. Well made, well acted. There is a deeper meaning behind it all that's easy to miss because of some of the extreme and disgusting subject matter, but there is a point to it all. It was a lot better than I was expecting.

That said the movie has been over hyped as far as being the most disturbing movie of all time. Not even close to that, I think. The baby scene was implied, didn't show anything.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's not. When you attack a group as a whole, why would anyone assume you're only attacking one very small part of that group?

I hate apples!
Really? Granny Smith's are awesome.
I thought it was implied that I only meant Golden Delicious!

Yeah, that pretty much sums up what happened. 👆

Your post also made me want to eat apples.

Originally posted by BackFire
Film's actually quite solid for what it is. Well made, well acted. There is a deeper meaning behind it all that's easy to miss because of some of the extreme and disgusting subject matter, but there is a point to it all. It was a lot better than I was expecting.

That said the movie has been over hyped as far as being the most disturbing movie of all time. Not even close to that, I think. The baby scene was implied, didn't show anything.

Really?

Sounds like a gross movie. But what would be worse? Those would fit perfectly in the thread.

The August Underground films are much more disgusting and hideous. They also fit the bill of a movie whose sole intent is to be gross more than this one does. One of those has a scene similar to the scene Zeal is talking about earlier in the thread, but it actually shows it.

I also think Salo, Irreversible and Men Behind the Sun are rougher than Serbian Film.

so, what, there is like a genre of "gross out" films like these?

bleh...

Films that intend to push the envelope as far as it can be pushed.

Most are garbage, but some are legitimately decent movies.

I can respect the desire to push the limit like that

just so totally not what I'm interested in seeing

Originally posted by BackFire
The August Underground films are much more disgusting and hideous. They also fit the bill of a movie whose sole intent is to be gross more than this one does. One of those has a scene similar to the scene Zeal is talking about earlier in the thread, but it actually shows it.

I also think Salo, Irreversible and Men Behind the Sun are rougher than Serbian Film.

Thanks.

Based on your previous recommendations, I have already seen Irreversible.

I'll take a look at Salo and Men Behind the Sun. 👆

Originally posted by inimalist
if a woman even insinuated a joke like that, she would be labeled a "femi-nazi"

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Remember, folks, this is coming from a feminist.

Why do you use words you don't know the meaning of? Such as ''feminist''?

Moving on.

I agree with lil b and Backfire on this in principle, I haven't watched the movie yet, but I do think that movies like that can have artistic or philosophical merit. I suppose I don't find it hard to favour Freedom of Speech, when the message is right, not harmful or trivial, like I said before I have more problems with speech that discriminates people or brainwashes people towards ignorance.