Annhilators vs Morrison JLA

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well when you get home then do so.

Because your truth is usually missing crucial details.

I believe Thor held back enough to let Glads gain the advantage. When Thor doesn't hold back he's a real monster and someone Glads can't hope to beat imo.

When I get home, I will post it.

Lol... sometimes my truth is missing crucial details but majority of the time, I'm right on point.

Thor always hold back and that lead to gladiator dropping him. We already seen what a none holding back thor can accomplish... defeating surfer, beta ray bill, along with a couple of other heralds that dog piled him. A none holding back thor is an elite high herald, probably trans and I admit, I would give thor the win ANY day of the week against glads but what does that have to do with supes. A none holding back thor would crush supes as well and him crushing a team of high heralds proves this.

You really need to stop bringing thor up anyway because I already told you my thoughts on the character.

Originally posted by carver9
When I get home, I will post it.

Lol... sometimes my truth is missing crucial details but majority of the time, I'm right on point.

Thor always hold back and that lead to gladiator dropping him. We already seen what a none holding back thor can accomplish... defeating surfer, beta ray bill, along with a couple of other heralds that dog piled him. A none holding back thor is an elite high herald, probably trans and I admit, I would give thor the win ANY day of the week against glads but what does that have to do with supes. A none holding back thor would crush supes as well and him crushing a team of high heralds proves this.

You really need to stop bringing thor up anyway because I already told you my thoughts on the character.

No, I dont think you are the crucial points change everything.

So you admit Thor on hi sbest dominated Glads on his best. Well then you agree with me.

Glads is weaker than Hulk at his best as well. Any elite top tier should beat him.

Originally posted by shokosugi
flash solos this team via blitz

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok.

No, I dont think you are the crucial points change everything.

So you admit Thor on hi sbest dominated Glads on his best. Well then you agree with me.

Glads is weaker than Hulk at his best as well. Any elite top tier should beat him.

You are putting words in my mouth.

I agree, thor is above glads when going all out but he is above supes as well. A thor going all out would have dropped diana in a couple of panel... diana held her own against supes. A gladiator going all out would have dropped diana in a couple of panels since he dropped thor.

I agree as well with hulk being over gladiator... hulk is also a beast and I think hulk is over thor as well and not to long from now... when hulk whip thanos a**, we will know that hulk is over thanos as well.

Any elite top tier shouldn't beat him because elite top tiers cant run through nova like he did or ko thor with a blitz like he did or snap hyperions neck or one shot binary like he did or destroy masterson like he did (before the sneak attack) or beat on ego like he did or stalemate surfer like he did along with shooting compsmic energy out of his chest or contain a solar system destroying blast like he did or rip a star in half like he did or bust a planet open with nine moons like he did or destroy the nova group like he did or solo an entire fleet of superhumans like he did.

Gladiator is top tier and he is physically above majority of them minus hulk. Thor "power" is what gives him the edge against glads.

Originally posted by carver9
You are putting words in my mouth.

I agree, thor is above glads when going all out but he is above supes as well. A thor going all out would have dropped diana in a couple of panel... diana held her own against supes. A gladiator going all out would have dropped diana in a couple of panels since he dropped thor.

I agree as well with hulk being over gladiator... hulk is also a beast and I think hulk is over thor as well and not to long from now... when hulk whip thanos a**, we will know that hulk is over thanos as well.

Any elite top tier shouldn't beat him because elite top tiers cant run through nova like he did or ko thor with a blitz like he did or snap hyperions neck or one shot binary like he did or destroy masterson like he did (before the sneak attack) or beat on ego like he did or stalemate surfer like he did along with shooting compsmic energy out of his chest or contain a solar system destroying blast like he did or rip a star in half like he did or bust a planet open with nine moons like he did or destroy the nova group like he did or solo an entire fleet of superhumans like he did.

Gladiator is top tier and he is physically above majority of them minus hulk. Thor "power" is what gives him the edge against glads.

Hulk has never even given Thanos a run for his money so until then let's not get silly.

Glads used his skill to snap Hyperion's neck as strength wise anyways it seemed pretty much dead even though I do think Glads is stronger if it was decided just on strength alone.

Those feats while impressive really have no bearing on how Hulk matches up with Glads or really any other top tier.

Thor is even with Glads strength wise as well. Thor is a lot more powerful and a much better warrior.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I dunno about easily dropping Diana. I give him the nod against Diana but I don't see her as an elite top tier.

Hulk has never even given Thanos a run for his money so until then let's not get silly.

Glads used his skill to snap Hyperion's neck as strength wise anyways it seemed pretty much dead even though I do think Glads is stronger if it was decided just on strength alone.

Those feats while impressive really have no bearing on how Hulk matches up with Glads or really any other top tier.

Thor is even with Glads strength wise as well. Thor is a lot more powerful and a much better warrior.

Why wouldn't a "none holding back Thor" not be able to easily drop diana? He drop a team of high heralds without too much trouble so he should be able to outright kill diana in a couple of panels.

Why wouldn't gladiator easily be able to drop diana. He is stronger than her, faster than her, more powerful than her, she doesn't even have the skill edge over him since he was trained in the shiar arts and he is a martial artist himself. She has no advantages against him.

Those feats are hellava impressive and by the way, hyperion has dropped the hulk so using him as evidence doesn't help your case. Many top tiers can't do the things that glads has done as easily as he has done them... get that outta here.

Thor isn't even with glads strength wise. When I see thor pushing a meteor that blocked an entire star lane with nothing but brute strength, then I would believe you. When I see thor rip a star in half, then I would believe you. When I see a high end 100 tonner fly at thor chest and bounce off of it leaving a smile on thor face, then I would believe you. When I see thor contain a solar system destroying blast or have enough strength to punch someone from the earth into the core of the sun, then I would believe you.

People equal to masterson that possessed thors hammer has given thor fits... gladiator ran through masterson and the avengers like candy.

Originally posted by carver9
Why wouldn't a "none holding back Thor" not be able to easily drop diana? He drop a team of high heralds without too much trouble so he should be able to outright kill diana in a couple of panels.

Why wouldn't gladiator easily be able to drop diana. He is stronger than her, faster than her, more powerful than her, she doesn't even have the skill edge over him since he was trained in the shiar arts and he is a martial artist himself. She has no advantages against him.

Those feats are hellava impressive and by the way, hyperion has dropped the hulk so using him as evidence doesn't help your case. Many top tiers can't do the things that glads has done as easily as he has done them... get that outta here.

Thor isn't even with glads strength wise. When I see thor pushing a meteor that blocked an entire star lane with nothing but brute strength, then I would believe you. When I see thor rip a star in half, then I would believe you. When I see a high end 100 tonner fly at thor chest and bounce off of it leaving a smile on thor face, then I would believe you. When I see thor contain a solar system destroying blast or have enough strength to punch someone from the earth into the core of the sun, then I would believe you.

People equal to masterson that possessed thors hammer has given thor fits... gladiator ran through masterson and the avengers like candy.

Glads is weak against magic as per wok. WW is more skilled and Glads is very cocky.

A long time ago Hyperion was more impressive than in the past 20 years his stock was hit the ground floor.

Yes, he is. Glads has admitted it as well. Feats don't determine who is stronger these characters matching up does and Glads even stated it hismelf.

Masterson lacked the skill and was too new to the Thor thing the real Thor would have ripped through Glads just like he did in his own comic when he took the kid gloves off.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I thought you meant like a non holding back Glads would easily be able to drop diana. Thor drops most top tiers though WW faster than most if he connects due to her sub par durability and lack of strength.

Glads is weak against magic as per wok. WW is more skilled and Glads is very cocky.

A long time ago Hyperion was more impressive than in the past 20 years his stock was hit the ground floor.

Yes, he is. Glads has admitted it as well. Feats don't determine who is stronger these characters matching up does and Glads even stated it hismelf.

Masterson lacked the skill and was too new to the Thor thing the real Thor would have ripped through Glads just like he did in his own comic when he took the kid gloves off.

I'm pretty sure a planet buster would one punch wondy and gladiator is a planet buster.

What does gladiator being weak to magic have to do with anything when gladiator is far faster than her and far more powerful. You do know that based on gladiator confidense he can become even more powerful right. Reed files along with professor x files states that gladiator has unlimited strength and he has proven this by accomplishing things that most top tier never displayed on panel. I forgot... nova has said the same things about gladiator.

What has happened to hyperion to make you believe that he isn't still a beast.

Glads didn't admit that thor was stronger, he admitted that thor was too powerful and I agree. Thor has damaged skyfathers and celestial... of course he is too powerful. Thor has defeated mangog but mangog is still stronger. Thor doesn't have the strength feats that gladiator has under his belt. Gladiator has been stated as being one of the strongest beings in the universe TWICE.

Thor wouldn't have ripped through gladiator like you are saying, especially since he couldn't rip through him before. Let's not forget, gladiator has a win on thor and thor has a win on glads.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm pretty sure a planet buster would one punch wondy and gladiator is a planet buster.

she's already proved you wrong.

Originally posted by -Pr-
she's already proved you wrong.

Please don't start this tonight pr. She has never been has never been punched by someone who has on panel showings of destroying a planet. Is that better? Or she has not been punched from someone that could punch a person from the earth to the core of the sun.

Originally posted by carver9
Please don't start this tonight pr. She has never been has never been punched by someone who has on panel showings of destroying a planet. Is that better? Or she has not been punched from someone that could punch a person from the earth to the core of the sun.

Inconsequential. Yes, she has.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Inconsequential. Yes, she has.

Naah, your feats are kind of different than planetary busting feats. Going by your standards, everyone with super strength is a planet buster.

Do you know how much power it takes to punch someone out of earth atmosphere into the core of the sun. Who has wondy faced that could do that?

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, your feats are kind of different than planetary busting feats. Going by your standards, everyone with super strength is a planet buster.

Do you know how much power it takes to punch someone out of earth atmosphere into the core of the sun. Who has wondy faced that could do that?

No, they're not. But tell me, how did you come to that conclusion?

Fact is, Wonder Woman has taken on people more powerful than Gladiator and taken shots from them. Superman, Captain Marvel, Several gods with the actual power to back up their status, Doomsday. The list goes on.

She's taken shots from people that have moved planets. That's far harder than busting them. You need to provide better feats.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm pretty sure a planet buster would one punch wondy and gladiator is a planet buster.

What does gladiator being weak to magic have to do with anything when gladiator is far faster than her and far more powerful. You do know that based on gladiator confidense he can become even more powerful right. Reed files along with professor x files states that gladiator has unlimited strength and he has proven this by accomplishing things that most top tier never displayed on panel. I forgot... nova has said the same things about gladiator.

What has happened to hyperion to make you believe that he isn't still a beast.

Glads didn't admit that thor was stronger, he admitted that thor was too powerful and I agree. Thor has damaged skyfathers and celestial... of course he is too powerful. Thor has defeated mangog but mangog is still stronger. Thor doesn't have the strength feats that gladiator has under his belt. Gladiator has been stated as being one of the strongest beings in the universe TWICE.

Thor wouldn't have ripped through gladiator like you are saying, especially since he couldn't rip through him before. Let's not forget, gladiator has a win on thor and thor has a win on glads.

Glads doesn't typically use his speed to outmaneuver his opponents he uses it for traveling and the occasional debris toss or straight up punch. This isn't cbr where he traveled once at 100 times the speed of light therefore he can dominate anyone who can't move this fast.

Recent history and the fact he's not portrayed like he used to be. Dominated by Thor, neck broke by Glads, shown up by King Hyperion on his own he needed another Hyperion, etc.

He said he's too strong I never said he's stronger either I said they are roughly equal in strength.

Glads can best him when he holds back and when he turns into a human not when both are all out Thor makes mincemeat of him as already shown.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, they're not. But tell me, how did you come to that conclusion?

Fact is, Wonder Woman has taken on people more powerful than Gladiator and taken shots from them. Superman, Captain Marvel, Several gods with the actual power to back up their status, Doomsday. The list goes on.

She's taken shots from people that have moved planets. That's far harder than busting them. You need to provide better feats.

What type of feats are you looking for? He has the standard feats to prove that he is at the physical feat of perfection. The guy CONTAINED a solar system destroying blast... if that feat does not prove that he is above anyone that you named, I don't know what to tell you.

None of the people that you have named has matched gladiators feats so I don't understand why you brought them up.

Originally posted by carver9
What type of feats are you looking for? He has the standard feats to prove that he is at the physical feat of perfection. The guy CONTAINED a solar system destroying blast... if that feat does not prove that he is above anyone that you named, I don't know what to tell you.

None of the people that you have named has matched gladiators feats so I don't understand why you brought them up.

You still haven't named one elite top tier he has beaten yet.

Originally posted by carver9
What type of feats are you looking for? He has the standard feats to prove that he is at the physical feat of perfection. The guy CONTAINED a solar system destroying blast... if that feat does not prove that he is above anyone that you named, I don't know what to tell you.

None of the people that you have named has matched gladiators feats so I don't understand why you brought them up.

You didn't answer my question.

Half of them have easily surpassed Gladiator. One feat isn't shit on this forum. You need consistency.

If you want to debate, provide proper evidence. Don't go on about how "feats" support you, because in all honesty, they don't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who has Glads oneshotted ?

Glads doesn't typically use his speed to outmaneuver his opponents he uses it for traveling and the occasional debris toss or straight up punch. This isn't cbr where he traveled once at 100 times the speed of light therefore he can dominate anyone who can't move this fast.

Recent history and the fact he's not portrayed like he used to be. Dominated by Thor, neck broke by Glads, shown up by King Hyperion on his own he needed another Hyperion, etc.

He said he's too strong I never said he's stronger either I said they are roughly equal in strength.

Glads can best him when he holds back and when he turns into a human not when both are all out Thor makes mincemeat of him as already shown.

Binary, war bird, a skrull with all the powers of earth heros, vulcan, rachel summers...black bolt.

Why doesn't he use his speed? He used it against the fantastic 4, he used it against the xmen, he used it against nova and he used it against masterson.

Why do you keep using thor as evidence of someone not being powerful? Just because hyperion lost to thor does not make him weak. A lot of powerful beings lost to thor. Getting your neck broke by gladiator isn't a low showing either... if it was, then thor would be weak since he has been koed by gladiator and masterson would be weak snce he received a royal beat down from glads. King hyperion... lol... king hype has destroyed three planets full of heros by himself... that's not a low showing either. What else do you got?

Gladiator stated that thor is too powerful and he is too powerful.

Glads bested him... regardless if you like it or not.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You didn't answer my question.

Half of them have easily surpassed Gladiator. One feat isn't shit on this forum. You need consistency.

If you want to debate, provide proper evidence. Don't go on about how "feats" support you, because in all honesty, they don't.

I have named feats... he doesn't have showings every month like some characters. What is it that you want to know?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Clinging to one feat isn't going to get you anywhere. It's also holds little to no water when Hulk or Thor attacks him as he takes a lot of damage from their attacks and can't ward them off.

You still haven't named one elite top tier he has beaten yet.

I already told you one top tier that he defeated... he defeated thor. He also stalemated surfer and had surfer worried. He ran through the nova group and they are a elite group.

Did I ever say that thor or hulk couldn't damage him.