Surfer and Thanos vs Wally West and Zoom, no PIS, CIS, BFR, or BS Megamatch!!!

Started by Galan00743 pages

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How are they blitzing though. As soon as the fight starts Thanos teleports up up and away. Same with Surfer. How exactly is he going to blitz them?
That's only if you assume they would be able to move before Zoom and Wally were pummeling them.

They wouldn't.

As I stated even if they get the jump on him... they wouldn't put THanos down before he is in the air with shields up and sending out omni directional blasts time and time again. Unless of course you feel like they can KO Thanos quicker then less than a second that it would take for him to activate his shields..

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
As I stated even if they get the jump on him... they wouldn't put THanos down before he is in the air with shields up and sending out omni directional blasts time and time again.
So in your argument you think he survives long enough to initiate the shield and get in the air?

Of course. Please point me to any incident where Thanos was KO'd via blunt force Trauma... He's taken blows from people exponentionally more powerful than what this team can produce. Yet, you want me to believe they can KO him in less than a second which is all it would take for him to activate his shields... His best shields mind you, since this is a no PIS or CIS fight.

Per Dianna, Zoom can hit harder than Superman. He can also throw thousands/millions of punches in the time it takes him to finish one of HIS sentences.

If you don't think thousands/millions of Superman-esque punches delivered within the first few nanoseconds of the fight can significantly harm Thanos, then I don't know what to say.

They *will* be harder as they are going all out, no bs.^

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Of course. Please point me to any incident where Thanos was KO'd via blunt force Trauma... He's taken blows from people exponentionally more powerful than what this team can produce. Yet, you want me to believe they can KO him in less than a second which is all it would take for him to activate his shields... His best shields mind you, since this is a no PIS or CIS fight.
Hmmm... the real problem is that them at their best really have an "eternity" to hit them all they want to. Greater than Superman Punches will hurt Thanos.

Wally IMP'ed Zom before he could blink, he could have hit him with 1 or 1000. If this them going *all* out, They move *much* faster than light. Zoom has no limits to his speed that have been shown and Flash going all out is a beast himself.

Was it ever eyplained where Zoom draws his strength from? I know he moves in his own time bubble for the speed, but what about the strength?

Originally posted by Galan007
Per Dianna, Zoom can hit harder than Superman. He can also throw thousands/millions of punches in the time it takes him to finish one of HIS sentences.

If you don't think thousands/millions of Superman-esque punches delivered within the first few nanoseconds of the fight can significantly harm Thanos, then I don't know what to say.

Who have these punches beaten on panel in this manner ?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Was it ever eyplained where Zoom draws his strength from? I know he moves in his own time bubble for the speed, but what about the strength?
His powers are paradoxial, he just does. Kinda like his vibrating. Btw there is no Spider-Man in this thread, get out!!! uhuh

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
His powers are paradoxial, he just does. Kinda like his vibrating. Btw there is no Spider-Man in this thread, get out!!! uhuh

Now there is, you owe me an apology.

Originally posted by Parmaniac

Now there is, you owe me an apology.

😆

Good one.

Though with strength do you mean "striking power"? Then that is tied to his power. In terms of lifting strength he is very strong (he picked up someone with one hand). Nowhere near the other team though.

^ They've only been used on Dianna.

However, she's been hit by Superman, and said Zoom's punches hurt more. It doesn't get any more reliable then that. There are also scans showing Zoom throwing hundreds/thousands/millions of punches in the time it takes him to finish one of HIS sentences. We have the power behind his all-out punches, and we have the speed in which he can deliver them.

So since we know beyond the shadow of a doubt that Zoom is capable of both feats, we can reasonably assume that here, in a PIS/CIS-free environment where he will not be holding back, that he would put those two abilities together.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ They've only been used on Dianna.

However, she's been hit by Superman, and said Zoom's punches hurt more. It doesn't get any more reliable then that. There are also scans showing Zoom throwing hundreds/thousands/millions of punches in the time it takes him to finish one of HIS sentences. We have the power behind his all-out punches, and we have the speed in which he can deliver them.

So since we know beyond the shadow of a doubt that Zoom is capable of both feats, we can reasonably assume that here, in a PIS/CIS-free environment where he will not be holding back, that he would put those two abilities together.

I am not saying he can't punch really fast I am saying did which character is the most powerful he's beaten by beating them to death quicker than they could mount anything in retaliation ?

Did this defeat WW ?

I also think Superman hits harder despite this one writer's take on it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not saying he can't punch really fast I am saying did which character is the most powerful he's beaten by beating them to death quicker than they could mount anything in retaliation ?

Did this defeat WW ?

I also think Superman hits harder despite this one writer's take on it.

Zoom doesn't fight heroes that way. He fights them to strengthen them and not kill and destroy. He's gotten rid of some Rogue's before though.

He might not strike on the level of a "retcon punch" but I believe he is on the level. Plus you have Wally's IMP which definitely hits harder. Zoom has no limit to his speed, so he likely has no limit to his striking power, much like Flash.

Again, we know what Zoom CAN do under the optimal conditions offered in this thread... He CAN hit harder than Superman (whether you like it or not) and he CAN throw millions of punches in the time it takes for him to speak one of his sentences.

1+1=2 in my neck of the woods.

Originally posted by Galan007
Again, we know what Zoom CAN do under the optimal conditions offered in this thread... He CAN hit harder than Superman (whether you like it or not) and he CAN throw millions of punches in the time it takes for him to speak one of his sentences.

1+1=2 in my neck of the woods.

It equals 5 over here. 😛

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Zoom doesn't fight heroes that way. He fights them to strengthen them and not kill and destroy. He's gotten rid of some Rogue's before though.

He might not strike on the level of a "retcon punch" but I believe he is on the level. Plus you have Wally's IMP which definitely hits harder. Zoom has no limit to his speed, so he likely has no limit to his striking power, much like Flash.

We have to argue based on what we've seen him do. If he's never shown the strength to even ko WW there's no basis for assuming he can ko Surfer let alone Thanos since they seem to be far more durable and powerful than WW ever was.

Zoom's also gotten tagged before and beaten before by far less than either of these with less impressive reaction feats as well.

Originally posted by Galan007
Again, we know what Zoom CAN do under the optimal conditions offered in this thread... He CAN hit harder than Superman (whether you like it or not) and he CAN throw millions of punches in the time it takes for him to speak one of his sentences.

1+1=2 in my neck of the woods.

If Superman hit her as many times as Zoom she'd be dead imo. I guess you think by this logic and this writer's take then that WW can survive thousands of Superman shots.

Maybe we can agree that Zoom hits harder than Superman has ever hitted Diana, I have a hard time believing he ever went all out on her.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If Superman hit her as many times as Zoom she'd be dead imo. I guess you think by this logic and this writer's take then that WW can survive thousands of Superman shots.
Bad attempt at trying to make a point.

Zoom hit Dianna with Superman-level punches exactly four times. Four. It's perfectly logical that she survived. srsly

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Maybe we can agree that Zoom hits harder than Superman has ever hitted Diana, I have a hard time believing he ever went all out on her.
I doubt that either as Superman has punched her to earth in one shot with temp ko'd her. If Supes held back just fifty punches to her face would kill her imo.