Originally posted by -Pr-
he focuses his eyes the way we do.
I can understand how Hulk and Juggs can dig their feet into the ground and tank such power.
But with the Thing and Colossus even with the other two couldn't Scott just instead of aiming acrosswards at them.
As they slowly come forward just quickly duck underneath them and aim up their bodies towards the sky and send them off into BFR land?
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
the scan is in the respect thread but it doesnt work anymore i dont know what issue but cyclops blasted his face
describe it.
Originally posted by the ninjak
I can understand how Hulk and Juggs can dig their feet into the ground and tank such power.
But with the Thing and Colossus even with the other two couldn't Scott just instead of aiming acrosswards at them.
As they slowly come forward just quickly duck underneath them and aim up their bodies towards the sky and send them off into BFR land?
he could do that, im sure.
Originally posted by -Pr-
describe it.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=383579&pagenumber=27
Pr asks you to describe the event... Instead yoi provide a link.
You seriouslly linked to a page full of hyperlinks after just telling us the link in question is broken?
You could have just gave Pr our cyxlops expert the issue...
Btw snoopdogs post says its in issue uncanny xmen 175.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=383579&pagenumber=27
yeah, that wasn't a full power blast. at all. he says "high power" and yet, his visor is still on, and it was written a long time before cyclops got written at a more powerful level.
Originally posted by Starscream M
I don't recall Scott ever blasting anyone far enough to be considered BFRed
then you need to read more comics.
i see Colossus being able to win although i also see Cyke's training alongside him making a difference.
Cyke wins due to familiarity of colossus tactics and weaknesses specifically his durability...
although i dont see Cyke punching holes into colossus i do see Cyke not holding back where he otherwise would when not knowing his opponents limit..
i see cyke knocking him off balance aiming hard blows to his head.
Originally posted by -Pr-he focuses his eyes the way we do.
so it lament terms I agree 🤘
I only ever log in to discuss Cyclops as he is still the character i enjoy reading about most in comics.
For the record, Cyclops HAS KO'd Colossus in the past. It happened in the Brood saga that Claremont did absolutely years ago. Cyke gets infected, loses the need for his visor, gets a wider angle of beam and KOs Piotr. Someone will have to tell you the issue number of UXM, as i haven't got it off the top of my head. If people really want me to research it as proof, i'll have to dig out my old UXM and quote it another day.
Also, in Asgardian Wars, Cyke outright blasts Colossus off his feet. To be fair to Colossus, he does get back up later off panel.
Also (again), in a very early issue of the All New UXM (again, Claremont's run), a fake Angel removes Cyke's visor to hit Colossus. Colossus' thought bubble states he feels the blast burning at his skin. A later issue of UXM where they are stuck in Murderworld and Colossus is brainwashed into being the "Proletarian", Cyke has his own thought bubble stating that if he increased the power of his blast, he might "cripple Piotr....or worse"....
In none of these examples stated does it say Cyke was going at full power.
I accept both Cyke and Colossus are probably more powerful and durable than they were back in the old UXM run.
All being said, my opinion is that Cyke beats Colossus. He definitely has a tactical edge, and i think he's got enough raw power in the tank to KO Pete.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Duganthe visor regulates the density of the beams cause the lenses can be adjusted to let more particles through.
has there been any evidence presented that scot having his visor on hinders the power of his optic blast? In fact hasent he mention a a few times that he blasting full power while he visor was on? To me the visor always seems to regulate the size of the blast more so then the power of it.
when cyclops presses his finger on the visor he's actually turning the lens a few degrees to allow some of the beam to get through, first setting is weak cause the angle of the lens blocks most of the particles (his usual method of attack since he can take people down without killing them). he can turn the lens 180 degrees and the beam is almost unrestrained, but it's small cause of the size of the lens, so of coarse without the visor on he can fire large, full power blasts.
Originally posted by the ninjak
I can understand how Hulk and Juggs can dig their feet into the ground and tank such power.
But with the Thing and Colossus even with the other two couldn't Scott just instead of aiming acrosswards at them.
As they slowly come forward just quickly duck underneath them and aim up their bodies towards the sky and send them off into BFR land?
You mean sort of like this?
Just with Colossus, like here?
Originally posted by -Pr-
yeah, that wasn't a full power blast. at all. he says "high power" and yet, his visor is still on, and it was written a long time before cyclops got written at a more powerful level.
I take issue with the implication that Cylcops can't use a full power blast while wearing his visor. His visor doesn't control the power, or even the intensity of the blast, what it controls is the spread. His blast isn't more powerful without his visor, it is just more. He can hit someone with just as much force with his visor as he can without it, what he can't do is hit as wide an area... but that hardly matters when his target is only seven feet tall and three feet wide.
Originally posted by srankmissingninno, it definitely does control the intensity
I take issue with the implication that Cylcops can't use a full power blast while wearing his visor. His visor doesn't control the power, or even the intensity of the blast, what it controls is the spread.
^ it's small but look at this part here. it describes the potency of the beam depending on the lense setting
