Cyclopes vs Colossus

it's from science of the x-men, and it's the closest thing we have to accurate information about the visor.

Originally posted by -Pr-
it's from science of the x-men, and it's the closest thing we have to accurate information about the visor.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
are you saying it usable evidence? becuase if so then everything in it is usable evidence. Which i am fine with, but that puts a lot of wolverine things to rest.

if it's not contradicted by the comics and actually fits them, then I don't see why not.

comics always have precedence though.

Originally posted by -K-M-
The "kid drawing" diagram is from the old handbooks

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
are you saying it usable evidence? becuase if so then everything in it is usable evidence. Which i am fine with, but that puts a lot of wolverine things to rest.

oh you! 😛

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
which is not usable evidence.

why not?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
which is not usable evidence.

entirely usable regarding attributes...esp if we don't have a contradicting source from comics

Originally posted by -Pr-
if it's not contradicted by the comics and actually fits them, then I don't see why not.

comics always have precedence though.

I can find quotes if I really have to, but i rather not go through hundreds of posts to find them.

I think we can go by Handbooks as long as on panel evidence doesn't contradict with it.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
but your guys ruling many times as been firm that hand books and out side source are not usable as evidence.

I can find quotes if I really have to, but i rather not go through hundreds of posts to find them.

when it comes to feats an power levels, no. when it comes to actual bios, yes, for the most part. you just can't use handbooks if they contradict the comics.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
but your guys ruling many times as been firm that hand books and out side source are not usable as evidence.

I can find quotes if I really have to, but i rather not go through hundreds of posts to find them.

mods said handbooks don't trump onpanel events if they contradict each other

Originally posted by Starscream M
regarding plot perhaps

entirely usable regarding attributes...esp if we don't have a contradicting source from comics

Originally posted by -Pr-
when it comes to feats an power levels, no. when it comes to actual bios, yes, for the most part. you just can't use handbooks if they contradict the comics.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I think we can go by Handbooks as long as on panel evidence doesn't contradict with it.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Captain Awesome strikes again 😎

According to handbooks Colossus is Class 100, does he have feats to back this up?

Originally posted by -Pr-
when it comes to feats an power levels, no. when it comes to actual bios, yes, for the most part. you just can't use handbooks if they contradict the comics.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I actually made the point before you did.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
K. This might need to be added to the rules, becuase your guys past statements have clearly said handbooks a as a whole are unusable. No one ever made a clearification that bio are usable. which would have made several other arguement I had in the past much easier to solve.

Iirc, our past statements always said that handbooks were a secondary source, but still valid in certain areas.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
According to handbooks Colossus is Class 100, does he have feats to back this up?

yes.

were are these feats? asside from statements, does any actaully have a feat of him lifting 100 plus ton object?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Iirc, our past statements always said that handbooks were a secondary source, but still valid in certain areas.

although my issue with the scan is that it is prob out of date.

cyke is prob wearing a newer model nowadays.