Dumbledore vs Gandalf the White

"the nazgul were unkillable until the power ring was destroyed."

Whaa?

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's a movie they have to create drama so of course he won't easily just best every little threat that comes his way when he had to he singlehandedly took down the Balrog whereas the others were useless against him.

he isn't going t summon lightning every time and the nazgul were unkillable until the power ring was destroyed.

Originally posted by marwash22
rofl. why did RJ get banned?

General douchebaggery if I understand correctly.

Originally posted by General_Iroh
Yeah I'm giving this to Neph. If the only other time he used it was during a storm in the hobbit then it's very likely that he can only summon it during a storm.

The whole reason Gandalf used it in the Hobbit was because they got caught by goblins while hiding in a cave from a storm. I used to listen to the audio books like every night (along with harry potter) so I can remember it pretty well.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
"the nazgul were unkillable until the power ring was destroyed."

Whaa?

Originally posted by quanchi112
the nazgul were unkillable until the power ring was destroyed.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, thats just not good enough. He never 'summons' lightning. The lightning was already there. A la storm.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
"the nazgul were unkillable until the power ring was destroyed."

Whaa?

Originally posted by Creshosk

Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree he doesn't usually use a lot of tactics and where's the proof he can't summon a storm ?

We've never seen any proof that Gandalf can't conjure a hurricane whenever he wants, so obviously he can.

Originally posted by General_Iroh
That's an awful argument man 😬

I for one don't even think he needs to charge up a sword here all he needs to do is tk away his wand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
With what we have seen him capable of do you honestly feel like he couldn't ?

I for one don't even think he needs to charge up a sword here all he needs to do is tk away his wand.

So it's settled, Gandalf wins then. Cool.

Originally posted by General_Iroh
I think it's very possible he can on account of Saruman conjuring up a storm and bringing lightning down upon the fellowship. But your argument doesn't prove anything 😬 and even though he can summon a storm it's not an instant thing, it takes time, Saruman didn't instantly make a storm and start firing lightning at everyone, chances are Gandalf won't have time to summon it.

Quit hanging onto one comment which imo makes perfect sense but either way I am not relying on gandalf using a lightning strike to win this thread anyways.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Gandalf doesn't need to summon a storm and I am sure he could start it off while fighting him at the same time anyways.

Quit hanging onto one comment which imo makes perfect sense but either way I am not relying on gandalf using a lightning strike to win this thread anyways.

Originally posted by General_Iroh
Lol well I agree that Gandalf would win, I've been saying so for quite awhile. If you want me to stop hanging onto the comment then stop asking me questions lol

Well, there is the matter of range
For one, we dont know exactly how far away Gandalf can be to use his TK, and, while im the biggest LOTR fanboy there is, Gandalf hasnt shown that many things that would let him win

Also, there was no storm mentioned when he summoned lightning, through a mountain no less, into his sword, stored at the pommel for a second, then released through the blade.

However, Gandalf WOULD win, if there was a way he could avoid being confundused (is that even a word?) or avada kedavra'd, and got close enough to use Galmdring, because we know he can channel fire and lightning, and that huge dumbles firestorm from HBP also required him to wave his wand above his head, which Gandalf can stab/bash faster than that

So, Dumbles wins if he uses any common sense and gets cocky, Gandalf wins if he magically survives several spells being shot at him, and doesnt get hit by confundus or one of them other stupid things

Originally posted by marwash22
rofl. why did RJ get banned?

lol, I didn't even notice this. Whats the story? Was it during a HP wankfest or?

Oh and Dumbledore wins. Gandalf would be too distracted by Dumble's wand.

Also, there was no storm mentioned when he summoned lightning, through a mountain no less, into his sword, stored at the pommel for a second, then released through the blade.

YouTube video

3.25. This is the only time hes does it on-screen. It's not like he conjured the lightning up himself, it clearly comes from the storm.

However, Gandalf WOULD win, if there was a way he could avoid being confundused (is that even a word?) or avada kedavra'd, and got close enough to use Galmdring, because we know he can channel fire and lightning, and that huge dumbles firestorm from HBP also required him to wave his wand above his head, which Gandalf can stab/bash faster than that

Yeah, but Dumbledore can apparate away if Gandalf gets too close.

Dumbledore all day.

Originally posted by Pwned
Well, there is the matter of range
For one, we dont know exactly how far away Gandalf can be to use his TK, and, while im the biggest LOTR fanboy there is, Gandalf hasnt shown that many things that would let him win

Also, there was no storm mentioned when he summoned lightning, through a mountain no less, into his sword, stored at the pommel for a second, then released through the blade.

However, Gandalf WOULD win, if there was a way he could avoid being confundused (is that even a word?) or avada kedavra'd, and got close enough to use Galmdring, because we know he can channel fire and lightning, and that huge dumbles firestorm from HBP also required him to wave his wand above his head, which Gandalf can stab/bash faster than that

So, Dumbles wins if he uses any common sense and gets cocky, Gandalf wins if he magically survives several spells being shot at him, and doesnt get hit by confundus or one of them other stupid things