Cross Genre Match #21: Frieza vs Thanos

Originally posted by Starscream M
have you ever watched one episode of DBZ? can you even imagine thanos moving or fighting at dbz speeds...I can't. 😬

Where did I say that Thanos could move or fight as fast as Frieza? Nowhere. However I don't for a moment think that Frieza (or anyone in DBZ for that matter) is leagues faster/stronger than the Heralds Thanos fights.

I've not even seen conclusive evidence that anyone in DBZ is AS fast/strong as said Heralds.

Originally posted by Omega Vision

I've not even seen conclusive evidence that anyone in DBZ is AS fast/strong as said Heralds.

dbz fights like flash....they overwhelm with speed

every movement they make is a blur

Originally posted by quanchi112
Shields, he can have all the tantrums he wants just like the fallen one. I am just arguing this ridiculous notion that Thanos cannot somehow negate a speed advantage when he has already done so on panel.

Fallen one doesn't fight like frieza... no where close to that.

Originally posted by -Pr-
and its also the argument i've been using against you since you've been on this forum. what, are you finally agreeing with me that punching power is as indicative of strength as lifting feats are?

other than that i agree

Originally posted by carver9
Fallen one doesn't fight like frieza... no where close to that.

any of galactus' heralds are faster, stronger, more durable, and leagues more powerful than frieza on default.

Originally posted by Starscream M
lol...how could you watch what I've watched and not see that dbz fights much faster than marvel heralds

dbz fights like flash....they overwhelm with speed

every movement they make is a blur

I agree and I think they agree... they are just in denial.

Originally posted by carver9
Fallen one doesn't fight like frieza... no where close to that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was using his speed and was unable to touch Thanos. Doesn't matter how he fights soon as Thanos doesn't want to be touched he cna zig zag all over the place he isn't touching his purple head.

What's the most powerful punch thanos shields can withstand? Can it withstand punches that sent visible shockwave across a planet that was twice the size of earth? Can his shield survive punches that can create nuke like explosions.

How about blasting powering? Can his shield tank blast that blew a planet up 10 time the size of earth (frieza did this at his weakest and he did it with one finger). Can his shield survive a blast that split a planet in half (did this with two fingers and he was only using 1% of his power)?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I've watched all the episodes, including the ones where nothing happens.

Where did I say that Thanos could move or fight as fast as Frieza? Nowhere. However I don't for a moment think that Frieza (or anyone in DBZ for that matter) is leagues faster/stronger than the Heralds Thanos fights.

I've not even seen conclusive evidence that anyone in DBZ is AS fast/strong as said Heralds.

Lol... show me a herald destroying mountains from the aftershock of their punches or creating shockwaves that was destroying the surrounding area along with sending humans flying almost out of orbit.

thor did that when he hit arishem

don't make me bring up the arm wrestling contest with herc

Originally posted by Starscream M
lol...how could you watch what I've watched and not see that dbz fights much faster than marvel heralds

dbz fights like flash....they overwhelm with speed

every movement they make is a blur

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think you have the same problem as Carver in that you judge things based on how they look, not what they are.

artists draw how speedsters fight differently than non-speedsters to let the reader know visually the speed that is in play

ie. when superman blitzes or flash is moving so fast everything else is frozen...that is differentiated from when superman isn't speed-blitzing

so art and depiction ARE important visual cues as to speed

Originally posted by psycho gundam
thor did that when he hit arishem

don't make me bring up the arm wrestling contest with herc

What would that prove? Recently characters has been put into their normal setting, you really haven't been seeing anything recently with thor or supes or any high herald strength wise doing insane things like that, all of that is classic feats.

Originally posted by Starscream M
what they look is a reflection of what they are

artists draw how speedsters fight differently than non-speedsters to let the reader know visually the speed that is in play

ie. when superman blitzes or flash is moving so fast everything else is frozen...that is differentiated from when superman isn't speed-blitzing

so art and depiction ARE important visual cues as to speed

Meanwhile Deathstroke blurs all the time.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, how many of those do you think he can launch in combat? and remain safe from the explosion?

At least one when at full power. I mean it shouldn't take him very long when it only took him like 5 seconds to charge up the blast at such a restricted state. Also, it was said in the manga that the people in Dragon Ball could control their ki blasts meaning that they can expand it, retract it, make it cause more damage, make it cause less damage, etc.

We know that he has planetary++ durability (he survived the destruction of Namek with very limited ki, when his body was cut in half) and that he can survive in space. So what's to stop him from sending one of those towards his opponent and then flying up to space?

goku also neutralized one of frieza's death balls iirc, wouldn't be surprised if thanos could just slap it away

That's because Goku and Trunks utilized their ki energy. Thanos doesn't, so there is nothing to prove what you said.

I personally don't think Thanos would need to even move after putting shields up. He could just stand there and let Frieza unload everything he has on him until Frieza runs out of energy reserves like he did against Goku. Then slap and smirk for the win.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think you have the same problem as Carver in that you judge things based on how they look, not what they are.

So if someone say "they disappeared" but all in all we know they are moving at tremendous speeds, the artist is wrong?

So when frieza and goku is fighting so fast that time stops, our eyes are cnfusing us?

So when we see someone doing a 10 comic book fight in less than a second the artist are lying to us?

Yeah right.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not always. There are many instances of Heralds traveling at FTL speeds without so much as a single motion blur.

Meanwhile Deathstroke blurs all the time.

Show us deathstroke completely disappearing from super human eyes and staying invisible to "superhuman" eye? What I am asking for is constant speed.

So you see heralds traveling through space at ftl speeds? Show us some planetary traveling of ftl and show us them combating at these speeds and if they are visible THEN you would have a argument.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
At least one when at full power. I mean it shouldn't take him very long when it only took him like 5 seconds to charge up the blast at such a restricted state. Also, it was said in the manga that the people in Dragon Ball could control their ki blasts meaning that they can expand it, retract it, make it cause more damage, make it cause less damage, etc.

We know that he has planetary++ durability (he survived the destruction of Namek with very limited ki, when his body was cut in half) and that he can survive in space. So what's to stop him from sending one of those towards his opponent and then flying up to space?

That's because Goku and Trunks utilized their ki energy. Thanos doesn't, so there is nothing to prove what you said.

I personally don't think Thanos would need to even move after putting shields up. He could just stand there and let Frieza unload everything he has on him until Frieza runs out of energy reserves like he did against Goku. Then slap and smirk for the win.

thanos shields would crack to friezas power and when has thanos hid behind shields an entire fight?

You do know that cis is on right?

Originally posted by carver9
So if someone say "they disappeared" but all in all we know they are moving at tremendous speeds

They move at superspeed. We all accept that. What exactly does "tremendous speed" mean though?

"Winking out" isn't a good measurement. Hayabusa, Ayane, Kasumi, and Hayate from Dead or Alive have done similar things if we are being honest.

Originally posted by StyleTime
It's been pointed out several times over the, literally, years DBZ characters have been in these matches; quantifying a lot of stuff for DBZers is too difficult.

They move at superspeed. We all accept that. What exactly does "tremendous speed" mean though?

"Winking out" isn't a good measurement. Hayabusa, Ayane, Kasumi, and Hayate from Dead or Alive have done similar things if we are being honest.

Originally posted by StyleTime
It's been pointed out several times over the, literally, years DBZ characters have been in these matches; quantifying a lot of stuff for DBZers is too difficult.

They move at superspeed. We all accept that. What exactly does "tremendous speed" mean though?

"Winking out" isn't a good measurement. Hayabusa, Ayane, Kasumi, and Hayate from Dead or Alive have done similar things if we are being honest.

Yeah, I agree "to an extent"... the reason it is "to an extent" is because frieza and goku did more in their 5 minute fight versus what anyone in comic book history has done.

Another thing that is giving me an idea on how fast they fight are these words. Goku ask vegeta to fight buu for only a minute... guess what vegeta said "in a fight like this, a minute is like eternity". Also, look at everything that happened in that short minute.

Then we have them fighting and moving so fast that the world around them completely stops. We have goku outracing a nuke. We have goku dodging blast and slapping blasts that made it out of orbit instantly. We have jeice and burta moving their body so fast that both of them turn into spheres. The list goes on.