Cross Genre Match #21: Frieza vs Thanos

I don't see Frieza being above Surfer in ability and feats.

Here is the manga in case anybody wants to read it and look at feats canonically:

http://www.mangareader.net/105/dragon-ball.html

DBZ chapters are around chapter 200 or so.

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, I agree "to an extent"... the reason it is "to an extent" is because frieza and goku did more in their 5 minute fight versus what anyone in comic book history has done.

Another thing that is giving me an idea on how fast they fight are these words. Goku ask vegeta to fight buu for only a minute... guess what vegeta said "in a fight like this, a minute is like eternity". Also, look at everything that happened in that short minute.

Then we have them fighting and moving so fast that the world around them completely stops. We have goku outracing a nuke. We have goku dodging blast and slapping blasts that made it out of orbit instantly. We have jeice and burta moving their body so fast that both of them turn into spheres. The list goes on.

The rest just goes back to what I said earlier. For example, how fast were Jeice and Burter going that they turn into spheres? Is it an indicator of speed or more of an art style so common in anime/manga?

It's a matter of perception sometimes, but you'll be hardpressed to prove that they are beyond herald level speed.

Originally posted by carver9
Prove it..

Show me thanos fighting someone that was moving faster than super human eyes can see and him being able to see them.

See Thanos reaction feats

Originally posted by Galan007
We have NO idea how fast Fallen One was moving when he attempted to attack Thanos. No idea at all. Thus trying to manipulate that showing into an uber reaction feat for Thanos is horribly faulty, and utterly baseless. Afaic.

Anyhow base form Frieza was a casual planet-buster. Final form Frieza at full power would tool Thanos.

Ummmm utterly baseless my friend... nah...

The Fallen One could and did FTL bullrushes. He did so to planet and destroyed it doing his FTL bullrush. He did the same to Thanos just just prior. Then he tries the same technique on Thanos... and you say it's utterly baseless how fast the Fallen One was traveling?

Yet you claim that Zoom punched millions of times in MUCH less than a second. When in fact that never happened as it took him a whole sentence just to do that. Then you go.. how long it too HIM to finish a sentence as if there is some concrete timetable for him completing a sentence. When in fact, there isn't any concrete evidence how long it took him to complete that sentence.

Originally posted by illadelph12
I think Majin Buu would've been a better match for Thanos, personally.

Why would buu be better when he could turn thanos into candy, absorb him, or teleport inside of his shields beating him to sleep. You all can't even prove that thanos could beat frieza.

Originally posted by StyleTime
This really only confirms what we all know already though. DBZ fighters are fast. A minute is considered a fair amount of time even in the real world if two fighters are going all out though.

The rest just goes back to what I said earlier. For example, how fast were Jeice and Burter going that they turn into spheres? Is it an indicator of speed or more of an art style so common in anime/manga?

It's a matter of perception sometimes, but you'll be hardpressed to prove that they are beyond herald level speed.

Show me a herald fighting so fast that time literally stop for them THEN you would have an argument.

Show me a herald doing everything that frieza and goku did in their fight in that little time (minus flash) then I would agree with you.

show me a herald fighting at constant speed and invisible to super human eyes for a long rate of time THEN you have an argument.

Show me a herald doing what I showed you what frieza did with that tk ball, then you would have an argument.

No one in marvel or dc fights like a dbz character.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
See Thanos reaction feats

I have seen his reaction feats.

Using your evidence as any type of proof, that would make Wolverine and Spiderman light speed characters.

Wolverine alone dodged almost everything that thor swung at him with and people consider him a light speed character. Dodged cyclops blast at point blank range etc...

Those feats are irrelevant, especially since he was unable to blitz gamora and thing and thor. He was also unable to prevent thor from sending him light years away with a hammer toss during the time he had the infinite gauntlet.

How fast was the fallen one going?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... you are hilarious omega. I'm posting all of his out put of power feats and nukes has damaged heralds on many of occassions and numerous of nukes would take its toll on thanos.

I'm about to post his feats of atomic bomb destruction and him splitting the planet into 1/3 with just two fingers.

Thanos was POINT BLANK when a planet went super nova and it did NOTHING to him in the least. Not a scratch on him. Now... do the math of how many nukes a super nova equals.. and then maybe you'll see why this nukes aren't really scaring Thanos in the least. Nor were they even classified as nuke level

Originally posted by quanchi112
His shields can withstand Galactus type fury.

Not true. I see the point that you're trying to make, but his shields got wrecked by Galactus pretty much the moment he started firing.

However, Frieza doesn't have near the level of energy output that Galactus has.

Originally posted by carver9
I have seen his reaction feats.

Using your evidence as any type of proof, that would make Wolverine and Spiderman light speed characters.

Wolverine alone dodged almost everything that thor swung at him with and people consider him a light speed character. Dodged cyclops blast at point blank range etc...

Those feats are irrelevant, especially since he was unable to blitz gamora and thing and thor. He was also unable to prevent thor from sending him light years away with a hammer toss during the time he had the infinite gauntlet.

How fast was the fallen one going?

Do you know what the Fallen One's "move" was? It was to ram shit with a bullrush and blow it up going FTL. That was his move... He did it to a planet.. then a ship right before he tried it on Thanos. Thanos stopped him mid rush when he tried it. Gaynamede tried to blitz Thanos... who just prior had blitzed Surfer.. He was dealt with little effort. Stopping Thor's hammer mid flight after it was thrown. Backhanding a maker blast at point blank range. He can and has reacted to speed and can certainly take anything that Frieza can dish out

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Do you know what the Fallen One's "move" was? It was to ram shit with a bullrush and blow it up going FTL. That was his move... He did it to a planet.. then a ship right before he tried it on Thanos. Thanos stopped him mid rush when he tried it. Gaynamede tried to blitz Thanos... who just prior had blitzed Surfer.. He was dealt with little effort. Stopping Thor's hammer mid flight after it was thrown. Backhanding a maker blast at point blank range. He can and has reacted to speed and can certainly take anything that Frieza can dish out

The key words there are "according to carver"... Yet he never ever proved such a thing.

Originally posted by StyleTime
This really only confirms what we all know already though. DBZ fighters are fast. A minute is considered a fair amount of time even in the real world if two fighters are going all out though.

The rest just goes back to what I said earlier. For example, how fast were Jeice and Burter going that they turn into spheres? Is it an indicator of speed or more of an art style so common in anime/manga?

It's a matter of perception sometimes, but you'll be hardpressed to prove that they are beyond herald level speed.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Thanos was POINT BLANK when a planet went super nova and it did NOTHING to him in the least. Not a scratch on him. Now... do the math of how many nukes a super nova equals.. and then maybe you'll see why this nukes aren't really scaring Thanos in the least. Nor were they even classified as nuke level

I'm referring to blasting power. That kind of different than planetary destruction.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The key words there are "according to carver"... Yet he never ever proved such a thing.

What is surfers best combat feat?

As a child goku punched someone 30 times in less than a second.

What is surfers?

Silver Surfer isn't even close to the high end of Marvel/DC Heralds in terms of combat speed.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Do you know what the Fallen One's "move" was? It was to ram shit with a bullrush and blow it up going FTL. That was his move... He did it to a planet.. then a ship right before he tried it on Thanos. Thanos stopped him mid rush when he tried it. Gaynamede tried to blitz Thanos... who just prior had blitzed Surfer.. He was dealt with little effort. Stopping Thor's hammer mid flight after it was thrown. Backhanding a maker blast at point blank range. He can and has reacted to speed and can certainly take anything that Frieza can dish out

So you have proof that the fallen one can blitz at light speed as close as he was to thanos? Prove it.

How fast was thor hammer toss that thanos blocked?

If thanos is faster than thor hammer toss, why didnt he stop a hammer toss from thor when thor sent him light years away with his hammer throw when he had the gauntlet?

Gaynamede... lol.. she isn't frieza, someone that can punch you miles and be behind you almost instantly.

Please don't bring up blocking blast when discussing dbz characters... they are the best at this.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Silver Surfer isn't even close to the high end of Marvel/DC Heralds in terms of combat speed.

Originally posted by Starscream M
neither is thanos.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Granted. I don't think it really matters. Frieza lacks the power output to put Thanos down.