Originally posted by psycho gundam
i like how you forgot thor casually draining the shit out of vegeta, and anything he attempts to throw at thor.
I was one of the peeps that agreed with the draining and that's why I said that was the reason it was a complete stomp. You also forgot the idea that frieza could attack him from almost every direction with his blast and fist and there isn't a da** thing thor could do about it.
You also forgot that vegeta could out right blitz thor as soon as the bell ring and do what he please to thor within a span of a second.
Thor only prayer is draining and how often would he use that in a cis environment, in character.
Thor is a brute, he would get crushed by vegeta.
Originally posted by carver9
I was one of the peeps that agreed with the draining and that's why I said that was the reason it was a complete stomp. You also forgot the idea that frieza could attack him from almost every direction with his blast and fist and there isn't a da** thing thor could do about it.You also forgot that vegeta could out right blitz thor as soon as the bell ring and do what he please to thor within a span of a second.
Thor only prayer is draining and how often would he use that in a cis environment, in character.
Thor is a brute, he would get crushed by vegeta.
I meant to say it wasn't a stomp in vegeta favor.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Comic characters and their situational stats (mostly speed related) can be annoying as hell.Can I envision a mere bulltimer like Spiderman blitzing Thor? Absolutely.
Can I also envision Thor easily reacting to and tagging a full speed Quicksilver? Absolutely.
Lol... are you referring to thor hittng the ground?
Originally posted by CosmicCometThat's because speed is a pain to quantify, you make an excellent point as usual.
Comic characters and their situational stats (mostly speed related) can be annoying as hell.Can I envision a mere bulltimer like Spiderman blitzing Thor? Absolutely.
Can I also envision Thor easily reacting to and tagging a full speed Quicksilver? Absolutely.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
or we just don'ti thought we would stick to canon sources but, i see that is too difficult
I meant moreso how to interpret stuff like powerstacking and art style. It'd be similar to the comics vs creating PIS/CIS, etc. Personally, I agree with you. I just think it may make it easier for discussion purposes.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
With the power stacking and various levels it is tough. But this happens in several threads. You spend more time arguing how they should be argued.With SF I do high, mid, or low showings, and give a score for each. Otherwise you have a big fight on how they should be evaluated.
That may be a good idea.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
this goes back to dbz characters suspect physical powerwe know thor can make a planet bit sized with his strength alone
(and thanos whooped that ass..a few times)
There is no suspect if you completely ignore what has went on. As a kid, goku moved a 30 ft tall boulder a couple of ft with ease and was tossing people out of cities. Kid goku was class 100 so what do you think vegeta is?
Thor strength means nothing in this fight against someone that can dance around his attacks kind of like wolverine did but at a MUCH faster pace. Thor blast won't touch him either.
Originally posted by StyleTimeIt's a bit of a generalization (on the power part) but it makes the debate go cleaner... instead of this.
I'm being nice. 😛I meant moreso how to interpret stuff like powerstacking and art style. It'd be similar to the comics vs creating PIS/CIS, etc. Personally, I agree with you. I just think it may make it easier for discussion purposes.
Yep. Although, it's really like....carver9's style vs like.... 95% of the rest of the forum. That's not a knock against carver9, but he definitely sees things in a different light than most.
That may be a good idea.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Not referring to that particular scene, just talking in general but sure that would count as him tagging QS.
Lol... so you are talking about when thor bring a lightning blast down at quicksilver and quicksilver dodge it and then boast about being faster than lightning and while talking, thor hits the ground creating a mini earthquake trippin quicksilver up.
Is this what you are talking about and using as a speed feat?lol
Originally posted by iceman24567
Well for one he doesn't have to see Vegeta to command lightning to hit him and two Thor has fought people with super speed numerous time he would hit Vegeta sooner or later 😬
Thor will be on the ground waay before he even had the thought of hitting vegeta.
If blast are unable to touch vegeta how is thor even grazing him with his fist.
Show me someone fighting thor at super speed. Gladiator used speed against thor and dropped him and it wasn't close to dbz speeds.