Asgard vs. Realm of the Beasts

mhmm Chaos War: Alpha Flight having a good showing for them is probably the reason Mungi made this thread. Heh.

IIRC, the Great Beasts while weakened were driving back the Chaos King's army, or even the Chaos King somehow with the help of Alpha Flight (Find that last part hard to believe with the way Pak's writing him) Although I don't recall seeing him among the masses until he burst out of nowhere at the end. Course I just flipped through. Shit looked boring.

Anyways, what exactly does Asgard mean? Who's involved?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
mhmm

Anyways, what exactly does Asgard mean? Who's involved?

a derelict castle a small army of asgard nobodies..

kinda reminded of the scene in Willow where they walk into the abandoned castle crawling with trolls.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
mhmm Chaos War: Alpha Flight having a good showing for them is probably the reason Mungi made this thread. Heh.

IIRC, the Great Beasts while weakened were driving back the Chaos King's army, or even the Chaos King somehow with the help of Alpha Flight (Find that last part hard to believe with the way Pak's writing him) Although I don't recall seeing him among the masses until he burst out of nowhere at the end. Course I just flipped through. Shit looked boring.

Anyways, what exactly does Asgard mean? Who's involved?

Pretty much as we finally had a way to guage them in powerwise as prior to that issue their power was supposed to be high, but we had no idea and it was just speculation.

AF members were amped by the Great Beasts

Not including diffrent planes (Hel, etc.), just Asgard as in the castle kindgom.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Read Chaos War: Alpha Flight....thank you

i wonder if some of the really deceased former flight members will show up.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
when i read that i knew you would make something like this thread

i wonder if some of the really deceased former flight members will show up.

Yeah I was bored, I was going to do it ages ago but then again it would only really be me talking about the Beasts.

What do you mean? Marrina, Guardian, Vindicator and Shaman returned

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah I was bored, I was going to do it ages ago but then again it would only really be me talking about the Beasts.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Pretty much as we finally had a way to guage them in powerwise as prior to that issue their power was supposed to be high, but we had no idea and it was just speculation.

AF members were amped by the Great Beasts

Not including diffrent planes (Hel, etc.), just Asgard as in the castle kindgom.

Well, what can I say? If the Great Beasts can take on the Chaos King while weakened, they stomp. Throw in Galactus and his heralds, and they still stomp. Pak has Chaos King as unbeatable in the main series, just destroying pantheons across the Universe etc. without any problems. The only thing that might change my opinion is that the Chaos King they encountered was before he absorbed all the pantheons. However, if they only faced some of his army like I recall them doing, my opinion changes greatly as his infantry are just minions. I'm guessing this one shot took place at the same time as Chaos War #2 were Mikaboshi finds Heaven and attacks everything.

I'd estimate that the individual members of the Great Beasts, were around mid Skyfather level or below if it's the latter.

Don't remember but I'll take your word for it.

Okay. Loki, Enchantress, Bill etc. are included?

Originally posted by Starscream M
it still is 😬

Nope as shown people have read the issue in question, and are talking about it.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Nope as shown people have read the issue in question, and are talking about it.

Originally posted by -K-M-
What do you mean? Marrina, Guardian, Vindicator and Shaman returned

Originally posted by -K-M-
Nope as shown people have read the issue in question, and are talking about it.

its like if you debated rulk in his first coupla appearances vs debating rulk after a few months would've resulted in very different outcomes

when you have so few appearances, it tends to be skewed

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well, what can I say? If the Great Beasts can take on the Chaos King while weakened, they stomp. Throw in Galactus and his heralds, and they still stomp. Pak has Chaos King as unbeatable in the main series, just destroying pantheons across the Universe etc. without any problems. The only thing that might change my opinion is that the Chaos King they encountered was before he absorbed all the pantheons. However, if they only faced some of his army like I recall them doing, my opinion changes greatly as his infantry are just minions. I'm guessing this one shot took place at the same time as Chaos War #2 were Mikaboshi finds Heaven and attacks everything.

I'd estimate that the individual members of the Great Beasts, were around mid Skyfather level or below if it's the latter.

Don't remember but I'll take your word for it.

Okay. Loki, Enchantress, Bill etc. are included?

Yeah he had destroyed most of the patheons when he got to the Beasts. He just killed and absorbed the Northern Gods and were going for them next. As for when these events happened from the checklist this tie-in is after the events of Chaos War #3. It was supposed to be the entire army, which isn't suprizing as one Great Beast was taking on the entire army in Hercules during the original God Squad team.

Yep, well the deceased AF members definetly were, no idea if the others were though.

Yes to all

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i mean like all the ones wild child killed and the other forgotten characters

Oh....well WC might not be dead afterall, and Puck will most likely be returning soon in Wolverine. Witchfire is out of limbo and in New Mutants, and Roger Bochs I doubt they will ever bring back

Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm little wary about debates on characters that have so few showings

its like if you debated rulk in his first coupla appearances vs debating rulk after a few months would've resulted in very different outcomes

when you have so few appearances, it tends to be skewed

100% agree, that's why in most GB threads prior to this issue I usually gave it to whoever they were up against as they were so obscure. Now we have a relative base to go off of. I don't even know where to place them to be honest.

Well they have had countless issues actually, but their powers were so vague and when we did see them they were weakened.

I would say the Great Beast could very well be from Mid to high Sky-Father depending how long it will take them to reach there normal levels.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah he had destroyed most of the patheons when he got to the Beasts. He just killed and absorbed the Northern Gods and were going for them next. As for when these events happened from the checklist this tie-in is after the events of Chaos War #3. It was supposed to be the entire army, which isn't suprizing as one Great Beast was taking on the entire army in Hercules during the original God Squad team.

Yep, well the deceased AF members definetly were, no idea if the others were though.

Yes to all

Did it say that or are you assuming? Just being specific. I know he killed Snowbird's pantheon but I'm not sure if he had absorbed heaven.

Some of the army, all of it. If it's just minions, I don't particularly care. Not to take away from the feat. Just saying. The minions of the Skrull God? I remember that.

I still can't remember this but once again, I'll take your word for it. It just seems counterproductive wasting their energy on them if they needed every iota they could spare. IIRC, they were beginning to be overwhelmed by the minions individually when Alpha Flight stopped helping because they were weakened.

But yea, from what I can remember, mid Skyfather level for the individual beasts more or less seems to fair if it's the army they faced.

Okay.

Originally posted by the Darkone
depending how long it will take them to reach there normal levels.

Takes 20 minutes exactally to reach full power.

20 mins they probably hit Sky-Father level and there is what about 6 or 7 Great Beats they would have done some serious damage with the old magic they are packing!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did it say that or are you assuming? Just being specific. I know he killed Snowbird's pantheon but I'm not sure if he had absorbed heaven.

Some of the army, all of it. If it's just minions, I don't particularly care. Not to take away from the feat. Just saying. The Skrull Army?

I still can't remember anything of the sort but I'll take your word for it. It just seems counterproductive wasting their energy on them if they needed every iota they could spare. IIRC, they were beginning to be overwhelmed by the minions individually when Alpha Flight stopped helping because they were weakened.

But yea, from what I can remember, mid Skyfather level for the individual beasts more or less seems to fair if it was the army.

Okay.

where the issue takes place? Yeah it takes place after Chaos War #3 definetly, as the checklist is the comics in order of the story. On page 5 of the tie-in the Great Beasts show Sasquatch images of different pantheons the army has killed.

Well those minions were killing all kinds of other pantheons themselves and what about the Skrull Army? Sorry I missed that point

Yep on pg.13 Shaman states "while we seem to have upgraded powers thanks to the Beasts, we are not yet fully restored to this plane, Snowbird"

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