Asgard vs. Realm of the Beasts

Started by Mindset4 pages

Originally posted by -K-M-
Because they live in the Realm of the Beasts under Tanaraq's control
So is T > Surtur?

I gotta say hard call.

The Great Beasts were doing very well but its really hard to determine if they would have won or if they were in fact taking on all of the force the Chaos King was bringing.

Remembering that while this is going on there were still numerous other battles that are and were taking place at the time. So I would say probably not.

And if they would have wound up winning is also debatable. It wouldn't have been the first time people have said they could do things only to fail.

Originally posted by Mindset
So is T > Surtur?

Unknown, and I doubt we will ever get the answers either

Originally posted by Newjak
I gotta say hard call.

The Great Beasts were doing very well but its really hard to determine if they would have won or if they were in fact taking on all of the force the Chaos King was bringing.

Remembering that while this is going on there were still numerous other battles that are and were taking place at the time. So I would say probably not.

And if they would have wound up winning is also debatable. It wouldn't have been the first time people have said they could do things only to fail.

I don't think he splits his army to attack different things at different times, as that hasn't been shown or said.

Keep in mind in Incredible Hercules one Great Beasts was fighting and defeating the entire army just by himself (well Snowbird took his form).

Well in the comic they were commenting they were turning the tide and were winning though, plus they were only getting stronger too.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Unknown, and I doubt we will ever get the answers either

I don't think he splits his army to attack different things at different times, as that hasn't been shown or said.

Keep in mind in Incredible Hercules on Great Beasts was fighting and defeating the entire army just by himself (well Snowbird took his form).

Well in the comic they were commenting they were turning the tide and were winning though, plus they were only getting stronger too.

Wasn't she fighting other great beasts?

Originally posted by Mindset
Wasn't she fighting other great beasts?

In Hercules? Nope.

Who were they?

I don't seem to remember.

Originally posted by Mindset
Who were they?

I don't seem to remember.

That she fought? All the gods the Chaos King is using currently to kill the patheons. They were slave gods under the rule of the Skrull God/Goddess before.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Because they live in the Realm of the Beasts under Tanaraq's control

They only lived in Tanaraq's realm because Surtur's dead and the Ragnarok cycle destroyed everything right? The realm of Surtur and his army is Muspelheim.

Originally posted by -K-M-
That she fought? All the gods the Chaos King is using currently to kill the patheons. They were slave gods under the rule of the Skrull God/Goddess before.

Eh? I thought that after he took over the Skrull army, he went on a long journey conquering various other pantheons, and enslaving various creatures from the dark crevices of the Universe. I.e. more than the Skrull army.

Originally posted by -K-M-
where the issue takes place? Yeah it takes place after Chaos War #3 definetly, as the checklist is the comics in order of the story. On page 5 of the tie-in the Great Beasts show Sasquatch images of different pantheons the army has killed.

Well those minions were killing all kinds of other pantheons themselves and what about the Skrull Army? Sorry I missed that point

Yep on pg.13 Shaman states "while we seem to have upgraded powers thanks to the Beasts, we are not yet fully restored to this plane, Snowbird"

To be fair, the checklist doesn't necessarily follow the order of events. Doesn't Chaos War: Ares come after Chaos War #3? At the very least #2. Yet chronologically speaking, it happens before Chaos War #2. Can you be bothered to post a scan?

Eh? I thought it was the Chaos King who destroyed and absorbed the Pantheons in a rampage. That's how it seemed like to me in #2. The minions just seem like ground troops at best.

Iight, I'll take your word for it. Seems counterproductive however. Why split up their power like that when they needed ever iota.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
They only lived in Tanaraq's realm because Surtur's dead and the Ragnarok cycle destroyed everything right? The realm of Surtur and his army is Muspelheim.

Eh? I thought that after he took over the Skrull army, he went on a long journey conquering various other pantheons, and enslaving various creatures from the dark crevices of the Universe. I.e. more than the Skrull army.

It's possible, but he was outright commanding them so perhaps after Surtur died they took Tanaraq as their new boss. No clue

He did, but all we really saw him take over was the Shi'ar gods and that was it. Concerning how long his journey lasted no clue, but from Marvel skewed timeline probably wouldn't have been long. Regardless one Great Beasts was taking on thousands of Gods at the same time.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
To be fair, the checklist doesn't necessarily follow the order of events. Doesn't Chaos War: Ares come after Chaos War #3? At the very least #2. Yet chronologically speaking, it happens before Chaos War #2. Can you be bothered to post a scan?

Eh? I thought it was the Chaos King who destroyed and absorbed the Pantheons in a rampage. That's how it seemed like to me in #2. The minions just seem like ground troops at best.

Iight, I'll take your word for it. Seems counterproductive however. Why split up their power like that when they needed ever iota.

Pretty sure all it was is a flashback of Ares remembering what happened (Ill reread it again when I get home). Marvel said the checklist was in order, but it's possible it can be wrong *shrugs* Oh for sure, give me a few minutes.

It was both, the gods that are killed can be absorbed or summoned to join his army as shown in Chaos War: God Squad.

Not sure, but I'll upload the scan of where Shaman says it along with the checklist.

Checklist
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight003.jpg

The Great Beasts showing Sasquatch images of various killed pantheons
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight006.jpg

Shaman mentioning his upgraded powers from the Beasts
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight014.jpg

didnt Chthon kill all the great beast during his possesion of quicksilver?

they are high skyfather at best

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
didnt Chthon kill all the great beast during his possesion of quicksilver?

No, they never fought.

Originally posted by -K-M-
No, they never fought.
if i recall there was shown being affected by his reality warping, not that they fought directly

ill get the scan

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
if i recall there was shown being affected by his reality warping, not that they fought directly

ill get the scan

you might be thinking of Omega Flight.

^you might be right, i cant find the scan

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
^you might be right, i cant find the scan

Omega Flight appeared in Mighty Avengers #21 if you want to check if thats the scans your refering to.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Omega Flight appeared in Mighty Avengers #21 if you want to check if thats the scans your refering to.
didnt the realms of the gods all get warped by him in 23?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
didnt the realms of the gods all get warped by him in 23?

Not sure, give me abit and I will see if I can confirm.

edit: nevermind, he just devoured asgard
and yea it was omega flight he killed
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1594799-chthon.png