Monarch vs PowerGem Thor

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No it wouldn't. Thor would win because he landed the killing blow before he was engulfed by the blast that would follow. However, prior to the blast.. Monarch died.. so even if it's a micro second after monarch.. he still won first.

Power gem thor can't match Monarch. Everyone is acting as if Monarch is a pushover. He manhandles high heralds by the handfuls without literally any effort.

Would anyone here put power gem thor at skyfather levels? Thats essentially what he has to be to win. Also Monarch didn't die when his suit ruptured. Every living thing in the universe except for a monitor, Superboy-prime and oddly a plant died around him.

The PG in the hands of Thor is a very dangerous thing.... He would EASILY be able to breach his armor and thor would be nigh indestructible with the PG. Thor wins this matchup but it would be easy at all.

Didn't answer the question thanosi. Would you put him at skyfather levels?

Still Monarch. He toyed with Prime and lost because of it, but PG Thor isn't Prime, he's slower and less durable.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Didn't answer the question thanosi. Would you put him at skyfather levels?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Still Monarch. He toyed with Prime and lost because of it, but PG Thor isn't Prime, he's slower and less durable.

Thor with the PG.... ummmm right around there I would say.. It could anywhere from Midskyfather to High Trans. Depending on how he was written. Keep in mind, that Thanos is consider by most to be mid/low end skyfather. While Thanos was getting the better of the fight imo... he still NEVER fazed Thor nor had any chance of putting him down. You can see this via his narration. He knew he could pummel thor and it would do nothing to him. Eternity even said... that if Thor was allowed to have the PG and continue to grow in strength he would even be a threat to him... which of course is beyond skyfather with time.

Originally posted by Starscream M
how the hell is PG thor less durable when he is effectively invulnerable?

correct

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Still Monarch. He toyed with Prime and lost because of it, but PG Thor isn't Prime, he's slower and less durable.

If he were a Skyfather he would have beaten Thanos. He didn't.

nope. Thanos is a skyfather himself. Maybe mid to low by a skyfather none the less.

Originally posted by Starscream M
how the hell is PG thor less durable when he is effectively invulnerable?

Where's the evidence that the PG significantly amped his durability?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Just like PG Drax was invulnerable? kinda

Where's the evidence that the PG significantly amped his durability?

"Accesses all power and energy that ever has or will exist, and can back the other gems and boost their effects. Allows the user to duplicate almost any physical superhuman ability and become invincible."

note that there is no qualifier before the word invincible...ie its not almost invincible, its simply invincible

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Just like PG Drax was invulnerable? kinda

Where's the evidence that the PG significantly amped his durability?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Just like PG Drax was invulnerable? kinda

Where's the evidence that the PG significantly amped his durability?

The fact that he took MULTIPLE shots from Thanos with no significant effect. Yet a much weaker version of Thanos two shot him previously? Does that qualify?

Originally posted by Sirius77
Didn't answer the question thanosi. Would you put him at skyfather levels?

Originally posted by Starscream M
how the hell is PG thor less durable when he is effectively invulnerable?

Because he's never survived a universal on panel like Monarch has.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He doesn't have to be a skyfather to beat Monarch. He can't be physically beaten and ran through a team like they were nothing which consisted of classic Dr. strange. Thor would rip open his armor very quickly and his durability he can't be physically beaten by this blast which only destroys the universe through a chain reaction.

So there you have it KMC. Power gem Thor> The universe.

Quan everyone.

anyways... moving on.

If Thor is given time to acclimate and use the gem to it's full potential he would win if you hand it to him and he only has it for a couple hours i see him fighting like he did in blood and thunder wanting to pummel everything...

depends what monarch uses to defeat him it wont be by physical force.

Originally posted by Sirius77
So there you have it KMC. Power gem Thor> The universe.

Quan everyone.

Monarch was defeated by far less than thor with the power gem.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
nope. Thanos is a skyfather himself. Maybe mid to low by a skyfather none the less.

He's nowhere near mid skyfather. At best he's in between trans and the lower end of skyfather.

I would put Monarch closer to the higher end of skyfather, just based upon the universal feat, pounding an amped Superboy-prime, slapping around high heralds like they were trash and basically punking anyone that he ever came into contact with. In fact I don't believe that he's ever had what I would consider a low showing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Horrible logic. This is so bad it makes my skin crawl. If Monarch's armor is opened he loses in the manner in which Prime has done so. Thor has access to the power gem so whether you disagree or not he wins the fight as he tears open his armor.

Monarch was defeated by far less than thor with the power gem.

That's retarded. Since when has Monarch ever been defeated by anyone on less than skyfather levels of power lol? Did you even read any comics with Monarch in them or did you just read the scans Quan?