Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Blows them to and fro, they reform and attack.In OOTP, the death eaters are shown flying right through Neville's head and it didn't even knock him over. They seemed to be like regular smoke.
Complete dissipation, possibly miles and miles apart. Which would likely kill them.
Smoke has mass.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
.9 seconds aint instant. Appariton is. Pretty simple.
The wizards still has to form the thought and then think about teleporting to some location and then teleport. It's not some independant action that just happens, it's controlled and limited to the wizard casting.
Does that happen at the speeds Superman can do?
Simple reaction time is the time required for an observer to respond to the presence of a stimulus. For example, a subject might be asked to press a button as soon as a light or sound appears. Mean RT for college-age individuals is about 160 milliseconds to detect an auditory stimulus, and approximately 190 milliseconds to detect visual stimulus.
There is not really a unit of measurement that can describe how insanely fast he has to be moving to be present in multiple places at once. If we accept .5c as our starting point, then Wolfram|Alpha tells us that the duration of Superman's trip from his starting point to within the enemy ranks is 5.08 x 10^-8 seconds. By comparison, to even register that the match has started will take (even being particularly generous, giving the Wizards reflexes more than a third faster than standard humans) 1.0 x 10^-3 seconds.
The difference is five orders of magnitude. Supes clears this easy.
I'm not sure what happens at range. If the Wizards can manage to put up some sort of barrier (or do long-distance voodoo) then they might survive more than a thousandth of a second.
Originally posted by Robtard
The wizards still has to form the thought and then think about teleporting to some location and then teleport. It's not some independant action that just happens, it's controlled and limited to the wizard casting.Does that happen at the speeds Superman can do?
Well, obviously the wizards cannot apparate until the fight starts. They can, however, have a destination in mind already.
Half apparating? That requires no thought, they just take off.
Originally posted by Zampanóthose instances were side along apparition. Those are the two times when apparition had the visible "unfolding" thing you are talking about.
If we ignore the [book]canon requirement to "turn on the spot" and accede to RJ's insistence that it is instantaneous (despite the duration of Dobby's attempt, as well as the clearly visible "unfolding" of Dumbledore and Harry in HBP) then Superman still demolishes his enemies at 25 feet.
They are not side along apparating here. High end screen feats for apparating are Fred and George literally appearing out of thin air. This is what we have to work with.
There is not really a unit of measurement that can describe how insanely fast he has to be moving to be present in multiple places at once. If we accept .5c as our starting point, then Wolfram|Alpha tells us that the duration of Superman's trip from his starting point to within the enemy ranks is 5.08 x 10^-8 seconds. By comparison, to even register that the match has started will take (even being particularly generous, giving the Wizards reflexes more than a third faster than standard humans) 1.0 x 10^-3 seconds.Well, like I said, 25 feet is probably not enough.The difference is five orders of magnitude. Supes clears this easy.
I'm not sure what happens at range. If the Wizards can manage to put up some sort of barrier (or do long-distance voodoo) then they might survive more than a thousandth of a second.
Scenario 2 and 3? The wizards at least have a second or two to take off or put up a shield charm. Remember, Flitwick, the most skilled at shield charms, is there. If he gets a shield up, no way in hell Superman is getting through it.
While I agree Superman stomps this thread, I'd like to point out Superman cannot be at any two places at the same time, even the apparent observation by the news that he is (in the film), is not to be used literally. Pretty much one second/minute he was in X country, and the next in another, hence seemingly being at multiple places at the same time since no type of human travel could achieve that. At no point would two Supermen actually be seen at the same instant (e.g you seeing two of them in the same room).
Anyway, just post this video next time a superspeed vs X (e.g precog, yes RJ) debate comes up:
Superspeed trumps in almost all cases.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Here we go, FF to :55...Apparition is instant.
Didn't watch it cause I'm capped, but thats not even the point. Clark is fast enough to turn everyone into paste before the wizards can even form a thought.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, obviously the wizards cannot apparate until the fight starts. They can, however, have a destination in mind already.Half apparating? That requires no thought, they just take off.
Sure, they can think before the starting gun, that's not the issue. The fact that they'll be dead before they can do something is.
No, it would require the same as apparating. They think and then they do.