Originally posted by DarkOdinNo, the logical answer is sentry/Void at his best is uber not that current MM sucks this tactic would work most of the time it just didn't work against him.
More like MM couldn't do what he did to Sentry to Odin given this version of MM sucks. Despite Sentry/void showing he asn't even ona skyfather level let alone a top tier like Odin The version of MM that fought Sentry losses to Odin. Any other version should rape both odin and Sentry all day long
Odin dies from this tactic and has shown no resistance to it. Try making an actual case not saying odin's a skyfather that isn't a case.
Originally posted by rotiart
Well considering they recently dropped beyonder from a godlike being to a mutant inhuman... And molecule man is beyonders general counterpart... I get the feeling owen was Depowered.
I don’t think it matters much if Beyonder is a cube being or mutant inhuman, if his relative abilities are intact.
Originally posted by "Id"
I don’t think it matters much if Beyonder is a cube being or mutant inhuman, if his relative abilities are intact.
Well for example during the protege storyline beyonder still had his own unuverse he presided over... During illuminati he's floating on some asteroids outside our solar system and no longer seems to have his own dimension.
I took that indirect showing as a drop in power
Originally posted by quanchi112Dr. Doom himself was examine asagrdians was amazed on how complex there bodies are. All the gods have been show to resist were others haven't Chaos war is a prime example non of the gods were effect by chaos king only mortals. Plus the fact the void would ahve to counter the odinpower which was showned that void had trouble with just a little odinpower in seige. Also the latest what IF goes further into sentry/void having trouble with gods.
No, the logical answer is sentry/Void at his best is uber not that current MM sucks this tactic would work most of the time it just didn't work against him.Odin dies from this tactic and has shown no resistance to it. Try making an actual case not saying odin's a skyfather that isn't a case.
Originally posted by rotiartWhether he is a cube being or not he did wreck the Illuminati did he not?
Well for example during the protege storyline beyonder still had his own unuverse he presided over... During illuminati he's floating on some asteroids outside our solar system and no longer seems to have his own dimension.I took that indirect showing as a drop in power
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Whether he is a cube being or not he did wreck the Illuminati did he not?
Yes he wrecked the illuminati... But that's like saying a person was killed... Does it matter if the force was a gun or a nuclear bomb...
Right now I'm trying to determine if he was decreased in power...
Odin could probably wreck the illumanati...
Just trying to put a finger on his power levels.
As it's drawing a relative comparison to Owen... Since the two have usually been matched against each other
Originally posted by rotiart
Well for example during the protege storyline beyonder still had his own unuverse he presided over.
But Eternity still called him a minor omnipotent or something. So he was definitely below Eternity. How could he have his own "full" universe and be considered beneath Eternity?
Originally posted by zopzop
But Eternity still called him a minor omnipotent or something. So he was definitely below Eternity. How could he have his own "full" universe and be considered beneath Eternity?
It wasn't a full universe I think it was a dimension like what mephisto Would have... But it was a guardians of galaxy issue so i might have it.
And yes Odin will wreck them.
Originally posted by DarkOdinOk, and ? They haven't shown the ability to resist having their molecules manipulated by the MM have they ? I'd say your comments are irrelevant as being more complex doesn't imply able to resist molecular manipulation by someone like MM.
Dr. Doom himself was examine asagrdians was amazed on how complex there bodies are. All the gods have been show to resist were others haven't Chaos war is a prime example non of the gods were effect by chaos king only mortals. Plus the fact the void would ahve to counter the odinpower which was showned that void had trouble with just a little odinpower in seige. Also the latest what IF goes further into sentry/void having trouble with gods.
Void had Thor at his mercy along with the avengers, after he wrecked asgard, fought them off with a norn stone amp, tore ares in half, and then tore Loki in half.
Void would also defeat Odin but Odin couldn't beat MM or the Void. Thems the breaks.