Originally posted by Galan007
^ Depends. If this is ZH Parallax, then he is the top dog in this battle, feat-wise.
With his Chaos Wave like feat? Nah.
He applied his power to an extradimensional place of chronal/spatial importance and didnt that escalate the damage across reality for him?
Thats like disrupting the workings of the M'kraan crystal resulting in that wiping out reality.
Or similar to how the Chaos Wave struck Otherworld a similar extra-dimensional place of chronal/spatial significance resulting in a domino effect. An escalation of the initial application of power.
No proof through alternative feats that Parallax could have wiped out time space through his own internal resources.
Its a great feat in terms of consequential destruction though.
zh parallax stalemated spectre and re-created dcu, He got better feats than wpotc and yes he can take her.
original ion is the right hand of god, korvac isn't even in the league. white lantern entity connect all life in the universe. but pre-retcon molecule man can defeat him.
and true franklin richards is powerful but he doesn't have the reaction time to counter the blitze. starheart only chance is blitze the kid as soon as the battle started.
is this pre-retcon molecule man? because if it is marvel team can win, but if it's not I definitely give it to dc.
Originally posted by MrMind
zh parallax stalemated spectre and re-created dcu, He got better feats than wpotc and yes he can take her.
Parallax didnt recreate the universe as stated on panel he used chronal energies and therefore time manipulation to reverse what had been done.
Great feat. Not beyond Jean Grey.
... Anyone could solo from team 2. Future Franklin full potential and Jean Grey White Crown is spite hard against team 1. Pre-Ret Molecule man is as well. Depending on the showing Korvac is Spite too. you'd have to take absolute highest showing from team lantern and Absolute lowest from team cosmic to make this remotely debatable and even then the best I see Lantern pulling is 3-4/10 at an absolute best.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Parallax didnt recreate the universe as stated on panel he used chronal energies and therefore time manipulation to reverse what had been done.Great feat. Not beyond Jean Grey.
He did actually, look at the scan, "blank page of creation, remake everything"
look at the scan, it seems pretty clear to me that he did
and what he did in emerald knights make me believe that he's definitely more powerful than wpotc
he collapsed timelines and alternate realities, that puts him on multiversal scale
wpotc barely has feats, parallax triumph her
Originally posted by MrMind
He did actually, look at the scan, "blank page of creation, remake everything"
look at the scan, it seems pretty clear to me that he did
and what he did in emerald knights make me believe that he's definitely more powerful than wpotc
he collapsed timelines and alternate realities, that puts him on multiversal scale
wpotc barely has feats, parallax triumph her
If you read the scans you'll see that Parallax was using chronal energies.
You dont make things with time manipulation. He simply rewound time. 😬
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Team one edges them out. ZH Parallax over POTWC who was only able to operate at that level in the heart of creation and all she did was change Scott's mind.
Oh please. Outside of the White Hot Room Jean Grey telekinetically amputated the HCT timeline giving precedence for a cosmic level of telekinesis.
She then went on to materialize through atomic manipulation what we were told was the universe.
Given Jeans feat outside of the WHR and given that we were told she materialized the universe through her telekinesis and no mention on panel was made of some fantasized power up she got from being in the WHR your point is unsupported and false.
Do come harder Queenie 🙂
Originally posted by MrMind
He did actually, look at the scan, "blank page of creation, remake everything"
look at the scan, it seems pretty clear to me that he did
and what he did in emerald knights make me believe that he's definitely more powerful than wpotc
he collapsed timelines and alternate realities, that puts him on multiversal scale
wpotc barely has feats, parallax triumph her
Furthermore Parallax never erased timelines directly through his own power, he did so by applying his power to an extra dimensional place of chronal/spatial significance. This triggered the resultant damage.
The equivalent of disrupting the M'kraan crystal triggering multiversal destruction 😬
Jean casually and directly can and has wiped out timelines through her own power.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Oh please. Outside of the White Hot Room Jean Grey telekinetically amputated the HCT timeline giving precedence for a cosmic level of telekinesis.She then went on to materialize through atomic manipulation what we were told was the universe.
Given Jeans feat outside of the WHR and given that we were told she materialized the universe through her telekinesis and no mention on panel was made of some fantasized power up she got from being in the WHR your point is unsupported and false.
Do come harder Queenie 🙂
Outside? Pure bullsh!t from you is nothing new. It's highest feat was inside the WHR. Destroying timelines is what Adam Warlock with just the soul gem can do.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Outside? Pure bullsh!t from you is nothing new. It's highest feat was inside the WHR. Destroying timelines is what Adam Warlock with just the soul gem can do.
Good for Adam. Why dont you present scans showing exactly how he did that. Furthermore if thats the case then your point also affects Parallax so thats cool son 😉
Yes. Prior to entering the crystal Jean destroyed the HCT timeline therefore giving precedence for the high level of telekinesis also displayed within the crystal. Your point is dump shit 🙂
Please find a reference on panel stating that Jean got some kind of powerup being in the crystal or drop your sh*t
She has used her telekinesis for universal scale feats, the scene states she was manipulating the atoms of the universe with her telekinesis and thats that. 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStormHis creation destroying blast was released from the end of time, but I don't recall it being stated that it escalated said blasts capability (it's been forever since I've read that series, though.)
He applied his power to an extradimensional place of chronal/spatial importance and didnt that escalate the damage across reality for him?
Anyhow, ZH Parallax...
a.) was capable of one-shottng powerhouses such as Time Trapper and Extant (who, himself, was a confirmed universe-buster.)
b.) destroyed all creation.
c.) began building a new creation in it's wake from scratch.
d.) was contending with the likes of Spectre (among many others) WHILE he was simultaneously creating his new universe.
...And that's all on panel, with no wanking added.
If this is ZH Parallax, the Lantern team wins imo.
Originally posted by Galan007
His creation destroying blast was released from the end of time, but I don't recall it being stated that it escalated said blasts capability (it's been forever since I've read that series, though.)
He never unleashed a creation destroying blast. He applied pressure to the end of time which caused entropy to rush through creation and that wiped out reality. So like i said he triggered it, akin to DDweller in the Darkness triggering the destruction of the previous multiverse by applying his power to the M'kraan crystal. Its not something Parallax did through his own power and he has no showings to suggest he could.
Originally posted by Galan007
Anyhow, ZH Parallax...
a.) was capable of one-shottng powerhouses such as Time Trapper and Extant (who, himself, was a confirmed universe-buster.)
b.) destroyed all creation.
c.) began building a new creation in it's wake from scratch.
d.) was contending with the likes of Spectre (among many others) WHILE he was simultaneously creating his new universe....And that's all on panel, with no wanking added.
If this is ZH Parallax, the Lantern team wins imo.
a) Means nothing conclusive. A sniper could one shot Magneto in the right circumstances.
b) Triggered the destruction.
c) Nope, he used chronal energies and therefore time manipulation to selectively undo the damage.
d) I dont recall him taking on Spectre whilst simultaneously manipulating time to bring back creation. He may have been in the middle of reversing time and then stopped to take on the heroes but im sure it wasnt literally simultaneous. Im unsure. You got scans?
Either way, what isnt in doubt is that Parallax triggered Entropy to sweep through creation. He never destroyed reality through his own power. Furthermore he never created reality as such, he used chronal energies and therefore time manipulation to selectively bring back desirable elements of what used to be.
