I was wondering, how would this feat be interpreted?

In one panel we see roshi with his glasses on and he would have realized if it was gone before the rays hit his eyes IF goku took them before tiens attack. Tien solar flare the ring, goku makes it to roshi in enough time to get the glasses AND put them on AND run back to the spot that he was at before the solar flare completely engulfs the field. Roshi without his glasses gets blind, then he realize that his glasses were gone.

If goku took them before the blast, roshi would have known a lot sooner than what he did since they are "shades". You all tend to forget that roshi have super speed as well so someone taking something from him without him noticing it is a feat within itself.

Goku outran the blast by a large pace and did a couple of things before the blast even registered.

Originally posted by carver9
Please tell me you are not saying this. When zoom hit wondy at ftl speeds, why didn't she turn to goo? Kid flash fought deathstroke at ftl and didn't even put a scratch on him.

Its called comics.

In addition, FTL doesn't work that way.

Energy increases as one approaches the speed of light, but it's impossible to pass it, and energy would likewise increase to a FTL particle that slowed down to approach the speed of light, it flips at lightspeed, it doesn't continue to increase.

It's impossible to accelerate even to the speed of light, let alone past it (though that's really "the speed of light in a vacuum," through a medium like atmosphere light is actually much slower), because there's room for infinite acceleration while STL (with time dilation keeping the accelerator below light no matter how many orders of magnitude faster they do).

Like you say, comics. It doesn't remotely resemble physics.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Are you kidding? I am constantly facepalming at everything, not just Dragonball. Didn't i just comment on how moronic some of the writers are for comics you referenced that were not Dragonball?

I can tell that a conversation with you would be both hilarious and frustrating so how about a high-five?

Lol... deal. My hand is in the air for the high five.

Originally posted by Q99
In addition, FTL doesn't work that way.

Energy increases as one approaches the speed of light, but it's impossible to pass it, and energy would likewise increase to a FTL particle that slowed down to approach the speed of light, it flips at lightspeed, it doesn't continue to increase.

It's impossible to accelerate even to the speed of light, let alone past it (though that's really "the speed of light in a vacuum," through a medium like atmosphere light is actually much slower), because there's room for infinite acceleration while STL (with time dilation keeping the accelerator below light no matter how many orders of magnitude faster they do).

Like you say, comics. It doesn't remotely resemble physics.

I agree with everything you just said.

What do you think about the scan that was presented from astner?

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with everything you just said.

What do you think about the scan that was presented from astner?

I think the grabbing of sunglasses was partially a comedic thing and shouldn't be taken literally.

Originally posted by Q99
I think the grabbing of sunglasses was partially a comedic thing and shouldn't be taken literally.

Why shouldn't it be taken seriously when all in all, it was a smart tactic. I didn't see anything comedy about it and didn't goku almost get disqualified for doing that?

I think the scan the implies that Goku is fast as ****; however, this is something we already know.

I don't think it means he is faster than light though. I only mention that because it has been brought up.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I think the scan the implies that Goku is fast as ****; however, this is something we already know.

I don't think it means he is faster than light though. I only mention that because it has been brought up.

I don't understand this post.

Originally posted by carver9
Why shouldn't it be taken seriously when all in all, it was a smart tactic. I didn't see anything comedy about it and didn't goku almost get disqualified for doing that?

It's basically the same kind of thing that was pulled when Krillian beat a smelly enemy by Goku pointing out he has no nose, despite him having no trouble smelling the guy before.

DB at this point was a lot more humorous.

The yanking of the sunglasses, while helpful and progressing the plot, is faster than the speed shown in the fight itself, and it's a joke. Early DB, characters can do stuff they otherwise couldn't when it's a joke 🙂

I thought the famous Akira Toriyama took pride in his inconsistencies or at very least acknowledge them.

Why can't we just chalk up this feat as that. Or if you really want to analyse the feat, Goku could've knew where Roshi was prior to the attack and ran in his direction to swipe the blast while in the attack. Unless he was looking directly at Tien, then I don't think that he would've been affected that much by it.

Originally posted by Q99
It's basically the same kind of thing that was pulled when Krillian beat a smelly enemy by Goku pointing out he has no nose, despite him having no trouble smelling the guy before.

DB at this point was a lot more humorous.

The yanking of the sunglasses, while helpful and progressing the plot, is faster than the speed shown in the fight itself, and it's a joke. Early DB, characters can do stuff they otherwise couldn't when it's a joke 🙂

Its kind of different if you ask me. I didn't see anything comedy about it. Even if it was something to humor us, it still happened at it is still a speed feat.

How do you know how fast they were fighting (goku and tien)? That's like me saying "since wonder woman blocked heat vision one day from superman and another day, having a hard time against the royal flush gang, she can't even fight faster than the speed of sound".

Goku knew that he was in trouble when tien did the solar flare so he snatched something that would aid him from being blind since he witnessed the "almost" tko tha jackie chun received when he got kicked in the back of the head... it was a smart tactic, nothing more, nothing less.

I don't get the last part... what couldn't dragonball characters do speed wise to make you "not" give this feat any credit? From what I have seen of dragonball, they never had a problem speed wise with anything. Their speed was almost limitless.

If Goku was that fast using Kinto'un would have been slow.

Originally posted by King Kandy
If Goku was that fast using Kinto'un would have been slow.

Who is kinto'un?

Originally posted by carver9
Who is kinto'un?

Did goku know how to fly then? And even if he did, we all know that dragonball characters are mostly known for their short burst of speed and their reflexes. That's like me saqying that if we were to place the flying nimbus in the ring and goku command it to move around the ring a its top speed, it could wink out just like goku could and move faster than the human or super human eye could see.

Do you all honestly believe this... does the cloud have the feats of moving around at constant , invisible speeds. To my knowledge, no. Goku is faster than the cloud, that shouldn't even be argued.

If Goku could travel at the speed of light he wouldn't even need the nimbus.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
If Goku could travel at the speed of light he wouldn't even need the nimbus.

Read above.

What is it that you all do not understand, goku is much faster than his cloud, he use it for transportation.

Going back to Blaxican's point and theoretically saying that Goku could travel FTL according to the feat (which he can't) then why would he need the nimbus cloud. A good example of Goku actually being faster than the nimbus cloud would be during the "Saiyan" arc when he was racing to Nappa and Vegeta's location. If he was faster than the nimbus cloud in that scenarios then why did he use the cloud then.

However this is all to much for just one inconsistency pointed out in all of Dragonball. Goku's not FTL and Tien probably took attention off of Goku when he was using his Solar-Flare. Especially when you have cases like Roshi being a moon-buster but not being able to beat King Piccolo.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Going back to Blaxican's point and theoretically saying that Goku could travel FTL according to the feat (which he can't) then why would he need the nimbus cloud. A good example of Goku actually being faster than the nimbus cloud would be during the "Saiyan" arc when he was racing to Nappa and Vegeta's location. If he was faster than the nimbus cloud in that scenarios then why did he use the cloud then.

However this is all to much for just one inconsistency pointed out in all of Dragonball. Goku's not FTL and Tien probably took attention off of Goku when he was using his Solar-Flare. Especially when you have cases like Roshi being a moon-buster but not being able to beat King Piccolo.

Did I say that goku could fly faster then light? I guess some people don't understand the difference between combat speed and flight speed. Goku small outburst of speed is MUCH faster than flying nimbus. So comparing the two is irrelevant since goku is much faster "SHORT BURST" wise. His combat speed is on a different level than his travel speed. Put nimbus and goku in a ring and see who can move the fastest and goku speed would be far greater.