Originally posted by quanchi112Kubik stated that a celestial was many magnitudes of power above him after he warpped a whole universe. Does this mean celestials have the power to warp universes?
We saw Ultimator go up against Mxy on panel and he admitted he was far weaker than she was so using a feat to undermine an actual on panel comparison is ridiculous.
Statements mean nothing without feats to back them up. And mxy's feats which are superior to his statements prove he is more powerful then ultimator.
Originally posted by Black bolt zIt doesn't mean it does or it doesn't it does mean they are flat out more powerful, genius.
Kubik stated that a celestial was many magnitudes of power above him after he warpped a whole universe. Does this mean celestials have the power to warp universes?Statements mean nothing without feats to back them up. And mxy's feats which are superior to his statements prove he is more powerful then ultimator.
You argue against the intents of writers which in turn makes you look foolish. The point is clear and you forsake the point in place of feats which is simply ridiculous and you yourself don't even own up to.
Originally posted by quanchi112So according to you celestials can warp universes yes or no?
It doesn't mean it does or it doesn't it does mean they are flat out more powerful, genius.You argue against the intents of writers which in turn makes you look foolish. The point is clear and you forsake the point in place of feats which is simply ridiculous and you yourself don't even own up to.
The intent of the writer is meaningless. Feats matter. And feats say Mxy is superior to Mxy.
Originally posted by Black bolt zThat's immaterial they may not have all of the versatility of the cc's but they are more powerful. You can't comprehend what you read.
So according to you celestials can warp universes yes or no?The intent of the writer is meaningless. Feats matter. And feats say Mxy is superior to Mxy.
I might keep this quote. You just said the intent of the writer is meaningless. LOL.
Originally posted by quanchi112I might quote you saying feats don't matter.
That's immaterial they may not have all of the versatility of the cc's but they are more powerful. You can't comprehend what you read.I might keep this quote. You just said the intent of the writer is meaningless. LOL.
feats is what we debate with.
Originally posted by Galan007He outsmarted him that isn't the same thing.
Yet Mxy's own creation (and by proxy, power) is what beat Ultimator at the end. Hmm...
Originally posted by Black bolt zThis isn't about those two and Thanos has superior feats whereas Mxy was less than up for beating her on power alone.
-We don't use feats.
-Comparisons do
-Odin>Thanos
-End discussion.
Originally posted by quanchi112Yes it is.
He outsmarted him that isn't the same thing.This isn't about those two and Thanos has superior feats whereas Mxy was less than up for beating her on power alone.
According to you we don't use feats. We use comparisons. And comparisons and portrayals show Odin to be much more powerful.
Originally posted by Black bolt zNo, they show them as peers with a very slight edge due to gungir and the fact Thanos suffered damage under intense exposure of one of these blasts.
Comparisons show Odin as superior. You can be biased all you want but it doesn't take away on panel feats.
Not taking away any feats ultimator was clearly superior in terms of power.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Most things in comics can't be quantified but this just means that's the level of power being thrown around it affects other universes.Odin tried to kill Thanos and failed. Thanos can tank his best no problem and already has.
thanos was on his knees in that battle. He showed no dominace at all in the battle. Odin didnt beat him but clearly showed he was more agressive and made thanos suffer greatly. this actually was a good feat for thanos. considering Odin>thanos.
anyhow i dont know enough about ultimator to comment on this fight.
