Originally posted by Black bolt zits not up to you to determine what is stupid or not
The fact that thor can do something that odin isn't capable of is just stupid 😐.I mean its because of Odin that thor has any power.
it has happened, has it not, that odin requested thor's help to save asgard...and thor's contributions often end up being quite significant, if not the game changer? that would directly contradict your notion that high heralds like surfer and thor are mere cannon fodder for Odin
Originally posted by Starscream MBut the fact that Odin empowers thor and gives him his power and Odin still has much much more power then what he is giving thor yet thor can do things Odin can't.
its not up to you to determine what is stupid or notit has happened, has it not, that odin requested thor's help to save asgard...and thor's contributions often end up being quite significant, if not the game changer? that would directly contradict your notion that high heralds like surfer and thor are mere cannon fodder for Odin
Logically Odin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thor.
Originally posted by Black bolt zlast time I checked, you didn't create Odin or Thor, nor do you currently write for Marvel, so what you think 'should' be true is of little value in this discussion. rather, we rely on what HAS been shown onpanel...regardless of whether it offends your sense of logic or not.
But the fact that Odin empowers thor and gives him his power and Odin still has much much more power then what he is giving thor yet thor can do things Odin can't.Logically Odin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thor.
Originally posted by Starscream MFine. Odin was stomping thanos. Thanos has stomped thor.
last time I checked, you didn't create Odin or Thor, nor do you currently write for Marvel, so what you think 'should' be true is of little value in this discussion. rather, we rely on what HAS been shown onpanel...regardless of whether it offends your sense of logic or not.
Originally posted by Starscream M
its not up to you to determine what is stupid or notit has happened, has it not, that odin requested thor's help to save asgard...and thor's contributions often end up being quite significant, if not the game changer? that would directly contradict your notion that high heralds like surfer and thor are mere cannon fodder for Odin
Thor almost always saves Asgard and Odin always asks him to go on missions. That however proves nothing. If Odin intervenes, conflicts end almost all the time. His either in the Odin Sleep, choosing not to intervene for some reason, or using Thor as a representative of himself.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt's not ordinarily his own so this is an amp. It's still his own power but he always has his power spread out throughout the asgardians.
What? How does the first half -before so- of your sentence support the second half -after so- of your sentence ? But whatever, it doesn't matter:You can call it whatever you like as long as you don't make it seem -or imply- that Odin's accessing a power that's not his own.
Why wouldn't it be allowed in this thread? Drawing on the power of Asgardian's is something his done more than once.
I'm not arguing that's it's even likely, I'm arguing that's it's an option on the table. Just want to make that distinction clear.
The other asgardians aren't in this thread hence he can't do so. You seem hell bent on arguing for amps now that are impossible within the parameters of the thread.
Originally posted by Starscream MThe context of the scene was misrepresented.
did you not get the memo that Odin stops time?!
Rage is correct. Stacking Heralds means nothing if the greatest Herald, the SS, can't even hurt Odin. He gave the example of 1000 Banes vs the Hulk. It wouldn't make a difference how much you have.
Odin is simply LEAGUES above Heralds. A better thread would be what energy level Galactus (hungery, normal, just eaten) would it take to put down Odin (no gear or Odin with gear).
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's not ordinarily his own so this is an amp. It's still his own power but he always has his power spread out throughout the asgardians.The other asgardians aren't in this thread hence he can't do so. You seem hell bent on arguing for amps now that are impossible within the parameters of the thread.
You can call it whatever you like as long as you don't make it seem -or imply- that Odin's accessing a power that's not his own
So what if the other Asgardian's aren't in this thread? Odin isn't limited by space/time. In his battle with Forsung, he thought of it, and their power was no more, including Thor, Sif and Balder who were in another dimension.
Originally posted by Uriel005
The only surfer that stands a chance is the one that raged about Uatu showing him home that he showed his greatest ability. The ability to spontaneously generate power cosmic out of nothingness. Galactus went WTF was that and thought he was stronger without realizing who it was. Other than that no amount of heralds should take down Odin just like no amount should take down RKT
I've heard about that incident with Surfer, do you know what book or issue it takes place because I want to check it out myself.