Originally posted by Robtard
I thought theSpoiler:?
the rage-hulk-virus guy outside was the previously BBQ'd husband
Was it or was it not? 'Cause I thought the same thing, but wasn't sure. I'm going to see this again at some point, though, to try to make more sense out of it. Some things were a little WTF. Like the guy
Spoiler:I also didn't understand why David/Fassbender
wanting to pet and play with the creepy worm-snake-like facehugger that came out of the black ooze. I guess it takes all kinds to make a world... but that certainly would not have been my first thought: "It's so cute, I think it wants to play!"
Spoiler:
"poisoned" the dude with the alien ooze or whatever it was. Can someone enlighten me?
RE: Blaxican:
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
CON'T:Spoiler:
MICHAEL FASSBENDER'S HEAD: I'm MICHAEL FASSBENDER, I can do anything. But I have to ask, what would be the point in doing that? Surely it's obvious by now that the aliens unconditionally hate the shit out of us. They'll probably just blow us up as soon as we arrive there.SCOTTISH WOMAN #1: My faith in Jesus will protect us, just like it did today! Not counting like the twenty people who died horribly.
ROLL CREDITS.
Yeah. Wasn't too impressed with the plot.
Lol..
You could probably make a mockery of just about any film with a parody like this, especially science fiction (Oh, except Michael Bay's Armageddon, though. That's an unequaled masterpiece... lol). Because you see, if they had put "lasers" on the ship, then you could easily mock them for that as well: "Why the hell did they pack heat if they're going to say hello to their benevolent maker?" But granted, the selfless sacrifice is a bit overused in films, but I seem to recall that being a large part of your beloved Armageddon, too... cue Aerosmith...
😉
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
You're so frosty.
Sorry, my black brah. I'm just harsh like that. 😛
Maybe the film is total crap, I'll grant you that possibility. But I'm a sucker for this kind of dark Sci-Fi. This was right up my alley. I love it. Pandorum is another dark Sci-Fi film that could also probably be ripped to shreds, but I like it, too (even though it doesn't have the A+ direction that Prometheus does).
I enjoyed the film; as I said, the CGI and the acting were both great. The characters were just written terribly.
Transformers and Armageddon can get away with having silly characters and ham-fisted plots because they're popcorn flicks. A philosophical/drama/sci-fi epic like this doesn't have that luxury, though.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Was it or was it not? 'Cause I thought the same thing, but wasn't sure. I'm going to see this again at some point, though, to try to make more sense out of it. Some things were a little WTF. Like the guySpoiler:I also didn't understand why David/Fassbender
wanting to pet and play with the creepy worm-snake-like facehugger that came out of the black ooze. I guess it takes all kinds to make a world... but that certainly would not have been my first thought: "It's so cute, I think it wants to play!"Spoiler:
"poisoned" the dude with the alien ooze or whatever it was. Can someone enlighten me?😉
Spoiler:
I thought the zombie dude was the tremendously unsociable Mohawk Geologist guy.
Looked like him in the trailer at least on freezeframes.
Spoiler:
David infected the Ropace's character's fella as a test to see what would happen, evidently... he alluded to it when he sneakily got the guy's permission in that "how far would you be willing to go to get your answers" question to which the guy replied "all the way, do anything" then cue infecting dip of finger.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthSpoiler:
David infected the Ropace's character's fella as a test to see what would happen, evidently... he alluded to it when he sneakily got the guy's permission in that "how far would you be willing to go to get your answers" question to which the guy replied "all the way, do anything" then cue infecting dip of finger.
Oohh.. nice. I have a feeling this is gonna get better the next time I see it. Goddamn.. epic win, Ridley Scott. He needs to stick to Sci-Fi exclusively.. heh droolio
"The film explains one of the great mysteries of Alien: where did its astonishing U-shaped space wreck, with its hatchery of alien eggs and mummified pilot, actually come from?"
Does it?
Spoiler:
It alludes to an answer. But as for the eggs... no it doesnt..
Or the ship. (Remember the planet is not the homeworld.)
I thought the movie seemed very bereft of characters doing stuff out of stupid motivation too.
As for the cliche accusation, sure. But thats unavoidable at some points in a 2 hour scifi movie.. but it still have less cliche than 95% of other scifi stuff out there. Its a movie that deals with archetypes, made by the guy who made the most imitated scifi outside of Star Wars/Star Trek...so I can accept the odd cliche.
Its set before the movie that all the imitators went from.
Originally posted by Kazenji
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/insider/sci-fis-prometheus-a-screamer-of-a-hit/story-e6frewt9-1226381377487
Yeah, what the hell? I thought the article was going to be about the film being a hit, but instead it damns it with faint praise. I don't really see many cliches personally. And hell, I don't mind cliches as long as they are as well directed as this film is.. heh... it's all effing superbly done.
Scott's belated Alien prequel, which is modelled quite closely on the original but isn't quite a horror film - more's the pity.
What the hell again? I thought it was at least as much of a horror film as the original Alien. (I mean, my girlfriend was covering her mouth and eyes quite often, haha.) It just throws in more Action/Sci-Fi because it's expanding the mythos and technology has allowed a lot more. Who writes these articles?
Prometheus is anticlimactic and terribly uneven: superbly staged scenes give way to cliches and seemingly reasonable characters end up doing things that defy any kind of believable motivation.
Um... I thoroughly disagree. The climax was bad-f#cking-ass. If you read this article you would never guess that the film has 74% on RT out of 216 reviews (that's incredible considering this sort of sci-fi subject matter). This writer needs a beatin'. lol
Anyway, the film seems to be doing pretty well, right? (BoxOfficeMojo). I mean, it did almost as well as Inception in the opening weekend, but it's R-rated. That's pretty damn impressive. It's already equaled its production budget in profit, which is probably a good sign. I'm going to be watching how this does, because I want the next damn movie. *crosses fingers*
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I don't really see many cliches personally. And hell, I don't mind cliches as long as they are as well directed as this film is.. heh... it's all effing superbly done.
Same here, I don't care about cliches as well if they're directed well. I guess it just annoys some folks out there, they spot a cliche in a movie and then pick the shit out of it.
Pretty damn funny and also a pretty good discussion...
http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag-prometheus/
I don't agree, though, that this film doesn't belong in the Alien universe. I think having that background enhances it actually.
Ha. Gotta love RedLetterMedia..
I think the allegory of Prometheus is dual layered.
Heres my theory:
Spoiler:We may see in the sequel...
I think the stealing fire/tech from the gods and getting punished was twofold. Humans crossing their boundry and getting punished.... and...
The Engineers stealing the DNA from the flying saucer people at the beginning, ('Cause that didn't look like the standard Engineer ship to me..) and it destroyed that engineer (was he the real Prometheus of the title?)... The other engineers possibly then spread this tech/allegorical fire as the bioweapon that it was.) My interpretation and I feel it explains the beginning part more comprehensively than Ive heard online. Only question is after that: WHo are the flying saucer lot? Those 'chariots of the gods' gods?
What do you guys think of this possible explanation?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I think the allegory of Prometheus is dual layered.Heres my theory:
Spoiler:We may see in the sequel...
I think the stealing fire/tech from the gods and getting punished was twofold. Humans crossing their boundry and getting punished.... and...
The Engineers stealing the DNA from the flying saucer people at the beginning, ('Cause that didn't look like the standard Engineer ship to me..) and it destroyed that engineer (was he the real Prometheus of the title?)... The other engineers possibly then spread this tech/allegorical fire as the bioweapon that it was.) My interpretation and I feel it explains the beginning part more comprehensively than Ive heard online. Only question is after that: WHo are the flying saucer lot? Those 'chariots of the gods' gods?What do you guys think of this possible explanation?
That's an interesting take, but dude, I'll be honest: I'm not really sure what's going on exactly, particularly at the very beginning of the film.
Spoiler:
I read the plot summary on Wikipedia and it says that's in the distant past and that it's HIS ship leaving... I think... and why does he drink that stuff and die? Was it Earth? Was he spreading the DNA on Earth to begin man?
I'm really quite unclear on much of it, and I suppose that's where lots of the negativity on the film is coming from, but it just means you'll have to work a little harder to understand it, which is fine by me... makes it richer. I look forward to seeing it again.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ha. Gotta love RedLetterMedia..I think the allegory of Prometheus is dual layered.
Heres my theory:
Spoiler:We may see in the sequel...
I think the stealing fire/tech from the gods and getting punished was twofold. Humans crossing their boundry and getting punished.... and...
The Engineers stealing the DNA from the flying saucer people at the beginning, ('Cause that didn't look like the standard Engineer ship to me..) and it destroyed that engineer (was he the real Prometheus of the title?)... The other engineers possibly then spread this tech/allegorical fire as the bioweapon that it was.) My interpretation and I feel it explains the beginning part more comprehensively than Ive heard online. Only question is after that: WHo are the flying saucer lot? Those 'chariots of the gods' gods?What do you guys think of this possible explanation?
Spoiler:
That smooth flat ship didn't fit with the techno-organic look of the Engineers ships/tech. But then again, the beginning of the film would have taken place millions; most likely billions of years before though, so it's possible they were/are one and the same people and their tech just changed? But I do doubt that. I do wish they would have let us known at which period in time that Engineer seeded the Earth with his DNA.I do believe that Engineer that sacrificed himself was supposed to represent Prometheus, in the sense he gave humanity life. You do have a good point with that other ship being a different race and in a sense punishing him/his people by making them seed a planet and spawn a new race based on their own, which in turn they loathed.
The Engineers (or at least giant humanoids) had been visiting Earth/Humanity for some time though and those pictures of that solar-system seem to have been as an invitation. So it's possible they were friendly towards humanity and then at some point (roughly two-thousand years as stated by the age of the corpses?) they decided to destroy humanity/life on Earth. This is exactly what the doctor left to find out.
Than again, it could be two factions of the same race? Friendly self-sacrifing Engineers that create life and mean mofo's that beat old men to death with the severed heads of their android servants. Too many questions, not enough direct answers.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
That's an interesting take, but dude, I'll be honest: I'm not really sure what's going on exactly, particularly at the very beginning of the film.Spoiler:
I read the plot summary on Wikipedia and it says that's in the distant past and that it's HIS ship leaving... I think... and why does he drink that stuff and die? Was it Earth? Was he spreading the DNA on Earth to begin man?I'm really quite unclear on much of it, and I suppose that's where lots of the negativity on the film is coming from, but it just means you'll have to work a little harder to understand it, which is fine by me... makes it richer. I look forward to seeing it again.
Spoiler:
If that was earth. 😛
Wikipedia can be wrong.
Yeah me too. Bring on the Blurays!