Richard D., Bronze T., & Shiva Vs Daredevil, Shang Chi, & Black Panther

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HTH match. Dojo style.

team 1

Team one might eek out the victory. Current Black Panther is powerless and in the first two issues of The Man Without Fear I got the impression he hadn't adapted to his power loss yet. He seems a little rusty.

Classic Panther and Team 2 takes it handily.

Panther gets no weapons here. It's strictly dojo setting.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Panther gets no weapons here. It's strictly dojo setting.

no one was claiming panther would get weapons. but classic panther was enhanced human (strength, speed, reflexes, stamina), current panther isn't. it's a pretty big gap performance wise between the two.

Just setting the rules here,

Team 1 ftw.

Dragon/Turner/Shiva stomp

Team 2.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Team one might eek out the victory. Current Black Panther is powerless and in the first two issues of The Man Without Fear I got the impression he hadn't adapted to his power loss yet. He seems a little rusty.

Classic Panther and Team 2 takes it handily.

agreed ^, make this panther old skool t'challa who fought IF to good effect and stalemated Steve Rogers and t2 win.

Team 1. Even if we go classic BP, Daredevil would really have to work to get a majority on BT or Shiva. Richard is a wild card because he used to be uber but hasn't done anything substantial in forever.

Originally posted by Konton
Team 1. Even if we go classic BP, Daredevil would really have to work to get a majority on BT or Shiva. Richard is a wild card because he used to be uber but hasn't done anything substantial in forever.

Batman's held his own against both BT and Shiva in hand to hand, and with his radar sense Matt should be in a better place to win a stand up exchange than Bruce. If DD can't outright take the majority he will at least make a split decision.

Also I would say that Turner is in a similar place as Richard Dragon right now, except while Richard hasn't done anything, Ben has some embarrassing loses. Most of BT good showings are PC.

Still current BP is a liability and team one wins.

I'm not using depowered BP. It wouldn't be fair. Still, I say team 1 wins.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I'm not using depowered BP. It wouldn't be fair. Still, I say team 1 wins.

Then Team 2 should win. Panther might not be quite as skilled as the other fighters but he is pushing Captain America level attributes across the board which more than closes the slight skill gab. The only person who might be able to get the majority from him is Shang-Chi, and that is off no benefit to the DC team.

Shiva would destroy BP, IMO.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Shiva would destroy BP, IMO.

Based on what? In order for her to "destroy" Black Panther, she would need to be capable of destroying Batman... which she isn't. Batman speculating that Shiva might eventually beat him in a h2h fight, is pretty much confirmation that she doesn't have what it takes to beat Panther. She has never had any visible advantage over Batman in any of their fights, she isn't taking Panther for the majority much less destroying him.

By being a better fighter. Batman is a more skilled fighter than BP, so it's not worth comparing.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
By being a better fighter. Batman is a more skilled fighter than BP, so it's not worth comparing.

The disparity between Panther's skill and the rest of the fighters listed is slight, and neither Batman nor Shiva are better enough to make up for the aggregate of Panther's physical attributes combined with his combat skill.

Like they never faced metas before. BP is out of his league, IMO.