Originally posted by jinzin
If you can prove that MNer is above his typical 2 ton class portrayal... THEN DO SO. Me asking for proof is not a lowball.
It would help if you would stop dodging questions.
Originally posted by jinzin
Spitting a tooth out like a bullet..... Yyyyyeah that could be a feat of strength I suppose, or it could be a goofy skill feat ala bullseye.
Originally posted by Deadline
^ Jinzin for starters Bullseye can't blow a tooth through concrete.. so yea.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Issue and title of this occurrence please.
Are you going to stop supporting Jinzin for the hell of it? Jinzin made no attempt to counter the point, so you automatically come to his defence. The fact that jinzin didn't have a problem with the feat occuring is irrelevant, must find something to defend him.
Originally posted by Deadline
Are you going to stop supporting Jinzin for the hell of it? Jinzin made no attempt to counter the point, so you automatically come to his defence. The fact that jinzin didn't have a problem with the feat occuring is irrelevant, must find something to defend him.
I dont care about what you and jinzin are arguing. You stated that Midnighter spit his tooth through cement and I want the issue and title of the event so I can see it for my self. I have many authority graphic novels and I have never seen any such event.
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Like I have been saying for eleven pages in this thread, and which PR confirmed, if there isn't a precedent to validate a feat, than said feat is PIS and irrelevant. The tooth spit falls under that umbrella. Honestly I don't think either tooth feat or the tank feat had anything to do with Midnighter's battle computer, what they are are examples of a writer being unfamiliar with a character's abilities, having a character operate way outside their established levels... and most of all being written by Garth Ennis. PIS. The Battle Computer explanation is merely a life raft we are throwing out because it could be a way to explain it, and an explanation is preferable to outright disregarding feats.
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
pound for pound, bone is more durable than concrete.
It was a concrete pillar.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
dude someone being a bit defenses which seems to suggest you might be full of shit.
Then obvoulsy you're full of shit, because clearly everything that srank and jinzin have stated in threads you must have known about. You've never trusted their opinion.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganI dont care about what you and jinzin are arguing. You stated that Midnighter spit his tooth through cement and I want the issue and title of the event so I can see it for my self. I have many authority graphic novels and I have never seen any such event.
Yes you do.
Don't care really ask DumGo.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
...Like I have been saying for eleven pages in this thread, and which PR confirmed, if there isn't a precedent to validate a feat, than said feat is PIS and irrelevant.
Um Pr never looked at the examples I don't think, so thats kinda moot.
Originally posted by srankmissingninThe tooth spit falls under that umbrella. Honestly I don't think either tooth feat or the tank feat had anything to do with Midnighter's battle computer, what they are are examples of a writer being unfamiliar with a character's abilities, having a character operate way outside their established levels... and most of all being written by Garth Ennis. PIS. The Battle Computer explanation is merely a life raft we are throwing out because it [b]could
be a way to explain it, and an explanation is preferable to outright disregarding feats. [/B]
Have you noticed you have an explanation for everything? Are you going to Harvard or something?
Originally posted by Deadline
It would help if you would stop dodging questions.
No one's dodging anything.
I want proof of his strength that's analogous with his tank shell feat IF you people are of the certainty that, that single feat makes him a heavy hitter of sorts.
The fact is that Bullseye can do feats that would require upsurd amounts of strength if it wasn't for his abilities.
He can't spit a tooth through concrete that we know. Bump his physicaly stats into the 2 to 3 ton class and perhaps he could.
Spitting a tooth through concrete is not a clear indication of strength at a specific level. Why do I need to spell this out for you?
Originally posted by jinzin
No one's dodging anything.I want proof of his strength that's analogous with his tank shell feat IF you people are of the certainty that, that single feat makes him a heavy hitter of sorts.
The fact is that Bullseye can do feats that would require upsurd amounts of strength if it wasn't for his abilities.
He can't spit a tooth through concrete that we know. Bump his physicaly stats into the 2 to 3 ton class and perhaps he could.
Spitting a tooth through concrete is not a clear indication of strength at a specific level. Why do I need to spell this out for you?
Um you said that if its not a strength feats then its a Bullseye feat. Bullseye can't do that so according to your logic it must be strength.
Originally posted by Deadline
Have you noticed you have an explanation for everything? Are you going to Harvard or something?
Yeah, that's what typically happens when you read comics, have a brain, and don't throw out important things like context at every turn. It's not some mystery or coincidence. thumbsup
Originally posted by Deadline
Um you said that if its not a strength feats then its a Bullseye feat. Bullseye can't do that so according to your logic it must be strength.
God I fear you're genepool making it out into the world.
What I said is that it COULD be a feat ala Bullseye, as in a feat that hinges itself upon a specific ability or skill.. Kinda like midnighters supercomputer brain. 😐
Again, as far as we know he can't spit a tooth through concrete, he's never tried. But the fact that he buckled Crossbones with a tooth spit while his larnyx was being crushed is probably a pretty good indication that if you bumped his physical stats up to 2 or 3 tons he'd be able to pull it off.
Again, even IF we're going to throw you that bone and say it's a strength feat...
WHAT LEVEL of strength is it a clear indication OF?
Originally posted by jinzin
God I fear you're genepool making it out into the world.What I said is that it COULD be a feat ala Bullseye, as in a feat that hinges itself upon a specific ability or skill.. Kinda like midnighters supercomputer brain. 😐
Nah you don't say. That obvoulsy means that Bullseye isn't an example of the sort of thing you're talking about. If you actually look what I posted its the same thing, you're just trying toi argue about everything.
I know you said could (suppose actually), big deal.
Originally posted by jinzin
Again, as far as we know he can't spit a tooth through concrete, he's never tried. But the fact that he buckled Crossbones with a tooth spit while his larnyx was being crushed is probably a pretty good indication that if you bumped his physical stats up to 2 or 3 tons he'd be able to pull it off.
Hes already around DD lvl already.
Originally posted by jinzinAgain, even IF we're going to throw you that bone and say it's a strength feat...
WHAT LEVEL of strength is it a clear indication OF?
Alot more than Bullseyes.
Originally posted by Deadline
It was a concrete pillar.Then obvoulsy you're full of shit, because clearly everything that srank and jinzin have stated in threads you must have known about. You've never trusted their opinion.
Yes you do.
Don't care really ask DumGo.
Um Pr never looked at the examples I don't think, so thats kinda moot.
Have you noticed you have an explanation for everything? Are you going to Harvard or something?
If something doesn't make sense, I ponder the possibilities and try to come up with an explanation that allows for the existence of such an oddity. I try to take everything into consideration and formulated an opinion based on deductive reasoning. Someone contently baying "OMG It happened, get over it!" isn't helpful and frankly the fact that it happened isn't in and off itself enough for a feat to be legitimate. Ideally I'd like everything to be consistent and fallow a set of internal logic... and if it doesn't I think an explanation is in order, and if I can provide one, then I will.
Originally posted by Deadline
Nah you don't say. That obvoulsy means that Bullseye isn't an example of the sort of thing you're talking about. If you actually look what I posted its the same thing, you're just trying toi argue about everything.
😂
Oh the irony.
Originally posted by DeadlineAnd if you multiplied that by about 4 times.....
Hes already around DD lvl already.
Originally posted by Deadline
Alot more than Bullseyes.
Like what? What level of strength do you honestly think Midnighter is pushing?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If something doesn't make sense, I ponder the possibilities and try to come up with an explanation that allows for the existence of such an oddity. I try to take everything into consideration and formulated an opinion based on deductive reasoning. Someone contently baying "OMG It happened, get over it!" isn't helpful and frankly the fact that it happened isn't in and off itself enough for a feat to be legitimate. Ideally I'd like everything to be consistent and fallow a set of internal logic... and if it doesn't I think an explanation is in order, and if I can provide one, then I will.
You got a scholarship to Harvard or Yale, clearly you're a genuis because you're always right.
If you're so smart what the **** are you doing on this forum? 😐
Originally posted by jinzin
😂Oh the irony.
Wahhhh you you're always misunderstanding my points!!!!! Nitpicking. I edited my post I know you said could (suppose).
Originally posted by jinzinAnd if you multiplied that by about 4 times.....
Nearly class 10
Originally posted by jinzinLike what? What level of strength do you honestly think Midnighter is pushing?
10.
Originally posted by Deadline
You got a scholarship to Harvard or Yale, clearly you're a genuis because you're always right.If you're so smart what the **** are you doing on this forum? 😐
I took fine arts in college, and now I'm talking Illustration at University. I'm not a genius, but like most people on KMC I try to be analytical and considerate of the points I am disusing... you should give it a try.