An excellent article

Started by Quiero Mota3 pages
Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
I'm well aware of that. The point is he's doing nothing to change it.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's probably more fear of what he can arm those who are against him to use as a tool to turn the small group that is the US undecided voter

Let's face it, Obama (or any President) could come out and say other retarded dribble and there's the percentage of the population who will vote for him no matter what and the percentage that won't. Just the way the US political systems works. Staunch Left and staunch right.

then why not appeal to the staunch left, who elected him in the first place?

if not, it seems like any liberals who vote democrat are really voting republican, and the republicans certainly don't care to cater to the left

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I would say it's the greatest weakness of liberal politics in America as a whole.

no willingness to stand up for what they say they believe in?

Originally posted by Robtard
Doing nothing as going along and literally leaving things as is or trying but failing?

It's the same old song and dance. He concentrated on this disasterious healtcare bill when focusing on trade and economic issues should have been priority. Problem is now he's going along with the right trying to sell tax cuts and cooperation with China as the tools to job growth. He's just blowing smoke up everyone's ass

Originally posted by inimalist
no willingness to stand up for what they say they believe in?

Yes, basically. The left tends not to question the rhetoric of the right, they dismantle the factually based claims that the right makes but nothing else. The idea that people will side with you even if you never make personally targeted, emotional appeals weakens liberal rhetoric. As a result they've become willing to let the right define Americanness and then try to fit their views inside that framework.

Cracked, of all places, did a nice article on the problem:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-wtf-has-obama-done-so-far.com-isnt-helping-obama/?wa_user1=4&wa_user2=blog&wa_user3=blog&wa_user4=moreon

Originally posted by inimalist
then why not appeal to the staunch left, who elected him in the first place?

if not, it seems like any liberals who vote democrat are really voting republican, and the republicans certainly don't care to cater to the left

I think the staunch left would vote for a chimp with a 'D' on its chest, as the staunch right would vote for an orangutan with an 'R' on its chest. Sadly, Presidents don't really have to appease their (voter) base all too much.

Wasn't there a thread Zeal put up a few months ago where Obama broke one of his major campaign promises (taxes?) and somehow it's seemingly okay with the majority of people who voted him in?

The average American(likely the same in other countries) voter has the political attention span of a bowl of cold soup. Come to America, visit 50 different metropolitan cities and ask 200 random people in each city "so, what ever happened to the WMD issue?"; I bet you the most common response will be something like "What?"

Ok, I'm ranting, I just have zero confidence in the US political system. /end rant

Originally posted by Robtard
Ok, I'm ranting, I just have zero confidence in the US political system. /end rant

Would you rather go back to Uruguay?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Would you rather go back to Uruguay?

I agree with him on the US political system. The electorate is really misinformed on a lot of issues and moneyed interests have far too much influence. Many European countries have a better model.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Would you rather go back to Uruguay?

No, I was raised here since 3; it's my home, it's my kids' home, my friends are all here and so are all my things.

Doesn't mean I can't ***** at what I see as wrong though, right? Though Uruguay is doing rather well, from what I hear.

Obama will pull a second term. Its 2011 and there is no republican hopeful with an approval rating to match his... unless someone appears out of the woodwork to unite the party, the fringe nature of most republican media figures lately will prevent them from getting a win on the national level.

Originally posted by Bardock42
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Originally posted by Robtard
No, I was raised here since 3

Wait. What?

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Wait. What?

I'm a ****ing immigrant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtE0jcAkvjI

mind = blown

I don't plan to watch it at all tonight and doubt it if anything he says will be done anyway.

Republican candidates for 2012...

http://hubpages.com/hub/2012-Republican-Candidates

Originally posted by Robtard
Though Uruguay is doing rather well, from what I hear.

HA! That settles it, then: I KNEW you were Mexican.

I really hope the numbering is irrelevant, cos Palin as #1, the Right must REALLY want Obama to do two terms.

Can't believe Rob is a xeno. I'll never recover.

Originally posted by Robtard
I really hope the numbering is irrelevant, cos Palin as #1, the Right must REALLY want Obama to do two terms.

Which is why I doubt they'll nominate her. Pawlenty or Jindal would be good choices.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Can't believe Rob is a xeno. I'll never recover.

He's been a member since 2005, and you never noticed until now?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Which is why I doubt they'll nominate her. Pawlenty or Jindal would be good choices.

Generalissimo Petraeus. Someone with a military background in charge during a time of war.