Achilles vs. Riddick

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Not sure about this famed Riddick speed. When he fought the Lord Marshall, he was throwing rather slow and clumsy punches.

Likely because Vin Diesel is a slow and clumsy man.

Originally posted by Robtard
Am I nuts? Cos I don't recall Achilles' heel being brought in as a weakness and that he was invulnerable except there.

Achilles' heel is not the movie's character's sole weak spot.

Riddick is slow, he just predicted where Lord Marshall was going to be next.

Originally posted by Robtard
But a foreign arrow can?

The movie did away with the supernatural/magical aspects of the poem.

Riddick has no arrows

i never said it was anything to do with magic, his body wasn't touched by a single warrior , ones who were stronger, even outnumbered, and riddick has demonstrted little beyond what could get round achillies skill level.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Riddick has no arrows

i never said it was anything to do with magic, his body wasn't touched by a single warrior , ones who were stronger, even outnumbered, and riddick has demonstrted little beyond what could get round achillies skill level.

Are you arguing that only arrows can hurt him?

Because of his skill as a warrior alone, not because of any sort of invulnerability or special protection.

Yes, I tend to agree that Achilles would win here.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Riddick is slow, he just predicted where Lord Marshall was going to be next.

Karl Urban jumping in is what saved him in that fight. Not that Achilles would have done much better against the Lord Marshall 1v1.

If Achilles would have seen the arrow he would has easly dodged it. But he didnt and the fact that he didnt noticed the first arrow, it slowed him down.

Originally posted by Robtard
That heel shot was for show, Achilles wasn't super-powered in the film like in the poem. He's jut an extremely well skilled and efficient killer, he'll bleed should be get hit by Riddick.

extremely well skilled and efficient killer, sounds like Riddick. Could he take on a raptor and snap it's neck bare handed? And what about Riddick's feat against waves of Necro's? Cpuld Achilles, if they switched places and given Riddick's blades, duplicate that?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
extremely well skilled and efficient killer, sounds like Riddick. Could he take on a raptor and snap it's neck bare handed? And what about Riddick's feat against waves of Necro's? Cpuld Achilles, if they switched places and given Riddick's blades, duplicate that?

With his weapons, Achilles probably kill a raptor. Bare-handed? I don't think he showed that kind of strength, assuming it takes a considerable amount.

Those Necros were literally running into Riddick's knives like morons, iirc.

This is a 1v1 battle, Achilles definitely shows greater skill in this area. The shield, armor and longer sword are another advantage.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
extremely well skilled and efficient killer, sounds like Riddick. Could he take on a raptor and snap it's neck bare handed? And what about Riddick's feat against waves of Necro's? Cpuld Achilles, if they switched places and given Riddick's blades, duplicate that?

You mean the scene when Riddick...used a gun as well?

As well as had several other people with guns fighting along side him?

Well, like I said, should probably take away his shield and armor. Or give Riddick Necro armor.

Or just have them fight and debate who'd win that.

Obviously if Riddick is good enough to get past Necro futuristic armour then he should be good enough to get past ancient greek armour.

So there would be no point in changing what they have anyway.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, like I said, should probably take away his shield and armor. Or give Riddick Necro armor.

How about we have them fight naked in a tub of pesto?

Point. The shield at least. What were those shields made of back then?

Achilles.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Point. The shield at least. What were those shields made of back then?

Nothing special but he was just too skilled with it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Point. The shield at least. What were those shields made of back then?

Wood covered in bronze and lined with leather on the inside.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Point. The shield at least. What were those shields made of back then?

Spartan shields were layers of wood and leather covered with a layer of Bronze on top, what Achilles had in that film appeared to be just some sort of metal.

Edit: Or what the Scotsman said.

Well, nothing on youtube showing Riddick much. Jaden's right, if Riddick can get past Necro armor, Achilles armor will be that much easier.

Strength? Riddick broke the neck of a raptor bare handed. He also send the Lord Marshall flying back 20ish feet with one punch.

Damage soak? The bounty hunter in PB dislocated Riddick's arm at the elbow, and Riddick barely noticed it.

Agility? I've been watching scenes of Troy on youtube, and I can't find anything that shows Achilles being nearly as agile as Riddick.

This is where I ask Rob to send me a copy of Troy.