Originally posted by NihilistNo. Not at all. The gem did NOT amp him in that fight at all.
facepalm Have you ever read the text and not just looked at the pictures?For 1 i never said the gem made him run faster.
The gem allowed him to subconsciously manipulate space, thats why he was arriving at a destination before he even realized he was heading for it,(Thanos explains all this to Runner after he takes the gem from him). In other words the Runner was moving space around ie bringing it closer to him thats why he reached a destination as soon as he set off and why Thanos equiptment said Runner was going twice the speed of light.
So normal Runner wouldnt be able to do what he did.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusAFAIK He didn't actually show teleportation but thanos said he was teleported subconciously.
Okay: Thanos did say that the Gem didn't make Runner faster (Which is something I never argued by the way) but at the same time, Thanos' dialogue makes it seem like the Gem might have been in play.Runner didn't seem to teleport in the fight, but I'm not sure if his ever shown actually teleportation like Pip.
Depends on interpretation or if there's any more evidence.
Originally posted by NihilistExcept its not.
Yes, as that is what the space gem allows you to do. Read the fight or anything involving the space gem and its capabilities.
Pip, an expert teleporter, was never shown to be able to bend space around him. Runner wouldn't be able to do it.
Not only that but bending space was NEVER said to be a capability of the space gem.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big CTrans I may gave you, but skyfather?! Surely you jest? And the only reason ill even entertain trans is because it seems to be the most murky territory of all the tiers.
i dont consider thor herald sometimes, he has operated at trans and even at skyfathers before
Isn't a trans-leveler someone who can regularly replicate a high heralds highest feats?
Originally posted by Black bolt z
No. Not at all. The gem did NOT amp him in that fight at all. AFAIK He didn't actually show teleportation but thanos said he was teleported subconciously.
Originally posted by Black bolt zHow wrong do you want to be read Thanos own words on the capabilies of the gem or in fact read the Silver Surfer issue just prior to IG in which Thanso does just that with space and a planet.
Except its not.Pip, an expert teleporter, was never shown to be able to bend space around him. Runner wouldn't be able to do it.
Not only that but bending space was [b]NEVER
said to be a capability of the space gem. [/B]
And as you say the gem never amped him at all, then why did Thanos instrument believe he was running at twice the speed of light.
Originally posted by NihilistDoes just what? Teleports?
How wrong do you want to be read Thanos own words on the capabilies of the gem or in fact read the Silver Surfer issue just prior to IG in which Thanso does just that with space and a planet.
Thanos said he used mental teleportation, which also means he can teleport himself or whatever he wants be just thinking about it thats why he reached his destination before he started running.And as you say the gem never amped him at all, then why did Thanos instrument believe he was running at twice the speed of light.
Yes. Thats what i've been saying. It didn't amp him in his fight with thanos.
Because he actually moves that fast if not faster...he caught up with surfer instantly while surfer was flying at top speed and thats past light.
An un-amped runner gave thanos a beat down. Its on panel. Stop wanking.
Originally posted by Nihilistthe irony is that you're telling me to read that stuff to find something not on the comics.
Yes, as that is what the space gem allows you to do. Read the fight or anything involving the space gem and its capabilities.
runner literally bored through Thanos' chair....heck of a trick for the space gem, especially for a guy who explained what he was able to gain from the gem, and then thanos confirming it to be the lowest form of it's capabilities.
Pip > runner when it comes to using the space gem
Originally posted by Black bolt zNo, allow sthe user to do what he wants with space/planets via the gem,read Silver Surferv3 #44
Does just what? Teleports?
Yes. Thats what i've been saying. It didn't amp him in his fight with thanos.Do you understand anything that is said, its shown on panel he used mental teleportation which isnt part of his regular powerset.
Because he actually moves that fast if not faster...he caught up with surfer instantly while surfer was flying at top speed and thats past light.He doesnt move at twice th speed of light normaly like he did when he fought Thanos, i guess the Runner and Thanos own words are enough for someone llike you to understand he wasnt just running at great speeds and not using the gem at all.
An un-amped runner gave thanos a beat down. Its on panel. Stop wanking.This is a perfect example of why posters are now starting to think you just troll with your nothing statements and answers.
Originally posted by NihilistYes...to an expert user. Runner didn't even know how to use it. He thought it just made him faster which it didn't as stated by thanos.
No, allow sthe user to do what he wants with space/planets via the gem,read Silver Surferv3 #44Do you understand anything that is said, its shown on panel he used mental teleportation which isnt part of his regular powerset.
He doesnt move at twice th speed of light normaly like he did when he fought Thanos, i guess the Runner and Thanos own words are enough for someone llike you to understand he wasnt just running at great speeds and not using the gem at all.
This is a perfect example of why posters are now starting to think you just troll with your nothing statements and answers.
Yes he had this. But it didn't help him in his fight against thanos.
He was running at great speeds and not using the gem at all. Are you saying surfer can't fly at past light speed?
I've given on panel proof. Runner didn't use the gem when he wrecked thanos. Thats it.
Runner still wins this thread.
Originally posted by Black bolt zIts got nothing to do with a expert user at all, and you stated it only let you teleport proving you didnt know what i was talking about(if you do tell what happened then.) .Stated on panel he was subconsciously manipulating space.
[B]Yes...to an expert user. Runner didn't even know how to use it. He thought it just made him faster which it didn't as stated by thanos.
Yes he had this. But it didn't help him in his fight against thanos.F*cking lol, he was mental teleporting, the gem also allows the user to be in more than 1 place at a time Silver Surfer v3#44, again stated on panel. He cant normaly mental teleport so it aided him fact.
He was running at great speeds and not using the gem at all. Are you saying surfer can't fly at past light speed?Surfer has nothing to do with the instance im talking about, you show any other time he has gone at least twice the speed of light.
I've given on panel proof. Runner didn't use the gem when he wrecked thanos. Thats it.The only thing you have done is troll as you have ignored statements by both Runner and Thanos and proof that the gem allows you to manipulated space.