Runner ( no gem) vs Thor

Originally posted by Nihilist
Its got nothing to do with a expert user at all, and you stated it only let you teleport proving you didnt know what i was talking about(if you do tell what happened then.) .Stated on panel he was subconsciously manipulating space.

F*cking lol, he was mental teleporting, the gem also allows the user to be in more than 1 place at a time Silver Surfer v3#44, again stated on panel. He cant normaly mental teleport so it aided him fact.

Surfer has nothing to do with the instance im talking about, you show any other time he has gone at least twice the speed of light.

The only thing you have done is troll as you have ignored statements by both Runner and Thanos and proof that the gem allows you to manipulated space.

No it didn't help him. He wasn't shown to have teleported at all in that fight. And thats the only thing he was shown to be able to do was teleport.

Are you claiming surfer cannot fly past light speed? Because runner was so fast surfer didn't even see him approaching when runner blitzed surfer.

ANd the runner never showed this ability. Runner wrecked thanos on his own. Accept that thanos can lose a fight.

totally not mental teleportation

thanos is actually calculating dude's velocity......

you'd think the streaks and explaination from thanos would be enough...

i was always under the impression that runner was at least as powerful as the grandmaster for some reason. maybe because of that early ss arc, or maybe some early defenders. my impression is he would be above thor. not sure the gem played much of a role in his dismantling of thanos.

To me, it implied that it seemed he was running faster than he usually does because of the space gem.. Runner thought he was speeding around under his own power. In reality, the space gem was allowing him to sort of port incrementally..

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
To me, it implied that it seemed he was running faster than he usually does because of the space gem.. Runner thought he was speeding around under his own power. In reality, the space gem was allowing him to sort of port incrementally..

Originally posted by Black bolt z
[B]Stated on panel he was teleporting. Pip, an expert user of the space gem, never displayed the ability to warp space. What makes you think runner, someone who didn't even know its true use, could do it?

No it didn't help him. He wasn't shown to have teleported at all in that fight. And thats the only thing he was shown to be able to do was teleport.

Are you claiming surfer cannot fly past light speed? Because runner was so fast surfer didn't even see him approaching when runner blitzed surfer.

ANd the runner never showed this ability. Runner wrecked thanos on his own. Accept that thanos can lose a fight.

I can accept Thanos loses a fight, you need to accept Runner didnt do it all under his own power, thats why the Runner said he never realized how fast he was UNTILL he had the gem, so all in all the gem aided him one way or another.

Originally posted by Nihilist
You didnt answer my question about Silver Surfer v3 #44 did you, i take it you dont have a clue then. Pip wasnt a expert user at all, read any of the early Infinty Watch comics you'll understand that Pips mind was only limited him to Teleporting, thats why Adam gave him the sapce gem(LT and Eternity have a convo about it as well) Again stated on panel by Thanos who knows more about the gem then the Runner via the power gem which can tap into nany gem and the info from looking into the Infinity well, he was manipulating space.

How can he only teleport, when you just said he he never telepoted in the fight, again read the Surfer issue i mentioned, the gem teleporting isnt like standard teleportation, it allows you to exist in several places at once.

When did i say anything about Surfer? oh thats right your trying to dodge what i asked about the Runner.

So Thanos,Runner and the on panel showing/statemantsare all wrong and your right eh.

I can accept Thanos loses a fight, you need to accept Runner didnt do it all under his own power, thats why the Runner said he never realized how fast he was UNTILL he had the gem, so all in all the gem aided him one way or another.

Yes the gem allows him to teleport. I never disputed that. But he didn't teleport in his fight with thanos.

So you ignore what I said. Now answer the question and don't dodge: Do you doubt surfer can fly past light speed?

Thanos and runner and on panel statements say i'm right. I suggest you re-read the comic.
And the gem did not aid him. Let me explain this to you again. The reason he said that was because he THOUGHT it made him faster. It didn't. It teleported him to the destination as soon he left. Thats why he thought he was moving much faster.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
[B]It wasn't a question. And thanos also had the other gems at the time. And runner was not manipulating space. Just teleporting. And yes pip was an expert teleporter. Warlock said this himself.

Yes the gem allows him to teleport. I never disputed that. But he didn't teleport in his fight with thanos.

So you ignore what I said. Now answer the question and don't dodge: Do you doubt surfer can fly past light speed?

Thanos and runner and on panel statements say i'm right. I suggest you re-read the comic.
And the gem did not aid him. Let me explain this to you again. The reason he said that was because he THOUGHT it made him faster. It didn't. It teleported him to the destination as soon he left. Thats why he thought he was moving much faster.

And seeing as i answered you question, answer mine have you read the Surfer issue v3 #44 in which it shows a=everything i stated of what is possibl with the gem.

Originally posted by Nihilist
It was a question.I knew you didnt know, Thanos used and demonstrated each gem on its own, hell he even explains it to Surfre and Drax. Warlcok said he was a expert teleporter thats all just teleporting, LT and Eternity even say he is only limited to that use of the gem.

So when else did he teleport then? So what or when did he mental teleport if he didnt do it in the fight.

Alright then yeah Surfre can go light speed, the Runner was going AT LEAST twice the speed of light, so you tell me when has he ever displayed that before.

My god you dont even realize how much you troll do you. So if it didnt make him go fatser and he didnt teleport at all (as you say) and didnt manipulate space, why did Thanos say he manipulted Space ? did Thanos lie. And why did Runner say he was reaching where he was going before he set off when showing of to Thanos? was the Runner wrong or lying?Thanks for admiting the gem aided him as you have just said her teleported to a destination as soon as he thought of it 👆

And seeing as i answered you question, answer mine have you read the Surfer issue v3 #44 in which it shows a=everything i stated of what is possibl with the gem.

He was stated to have teleport instead of run. He said he was running faster then he ever was before. He thought he was running faster. He was actually teleporting.

Ever displayed going past light speed? Considering surfer didn't even seen runner coming he was going so fast and we know surfer can go well beyond light speed it wouldn't be out of range for him to go twice lightspeed.

Because he used the gem to teleport instead of run before he fought thanos. Thats why he thought he was moving so fast.

This is not hard. Please just get it into your head. Runner didn't teleport in his fight with thanos. Runner thought the gem made him move faster since he was at a destination before he knew he left. This was because he was teleporting.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
thor held his own aganst odin twice and managed to phase him even though thanos was useless against odin

thor absorbed a galaxy busting blast with his hammer

cracked celestial armor

chase galactus off

beat ego

A great feat for Mjolnir

One of my favs

Context

Impressive, but its been done by a few other high heralds as well.

The other stuff with Odin I don't know much about. But I don't see Thor doing anything to even annoy Odin, let alone hold his own.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
totally not mental teleportation

thanos is actually calculating dude's velocity......

you'd think the streaks and explaination from thanos would be enough...

Originally posted by Bentley
Thor is no Superman...

exactly thats why thor beats supes 6/10

runner for this win.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Ever displayed going past light speed? Considering surfer didn't even seen runner coming he was going so fast and we know surfer can go well beyond light speed it wouldn't be out of range for him to go twice lightspeed.

Why do you keep saying this? Surfer was talking to himself and Runner effectively ambushed him.

Also, there is nothing it indicate how fast Surfer was traveling.

Originally posted by Spire
Why do you keep saying this? Surfer was talking to himself and Runner effectively ambushed him.

Also, there is nothing it indicate how fast Surfer was traveling.

Can anyone tell me when Runner has ever outright speed blitzed an opponent to a knock out? Because I can't think of any instances, and that's the only way I see Thor losing this.

If he approached this fight as he did against Surfer, or even the more brutal fight against Thanos, I see him losing.

If this is one of those non character battles where there's no personalities involved, this is a pretty easy win for Thor. An omni directional blast of energy capable of teleporting those caught in it (As Thor has done) would end it.

Originally posted by dmills
Trans I may gave you, but skyfather?! Surely you jest? And the only reason ill even entertain trans is because it seems to be the most murky territory of all the tiers.

Isn't a trans-leveler someone who can regularly replicate a high heralds highest feats?

Thor has outperformed Skyfather level power.

Thor has outperformed Skyfather level power. [/B][/QUOTE] Ok I'll bite. When was this and what's the context.

Originally posted by dmills
Ok I'll bite. When was this and what's the context.

Thor #300.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor #300.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Is that the one with the celestial? Context rage.

Yes.

😬 Context?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes.

😬 Context?

Thats the context right? Impressive nonetheless but he was still amped.