Vampires and Lycans versus Mutants and co. (Army thread)...

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

U mad, Bro?

Read the OP. The mutants know how to kill them.

I'm correct here, so why would i be mad?

And only Hannibal King, Whistler and Buffy had some silver or wooden spikes. They're not surviving all too long here, being basically human and all. Nomak, Blade and probably Van Helsing alone would wreck all three, let alone by vampires they can't see.

Edit: The Gecko bros too, they're basically dead here right away though, considering the vampires they fought were shit.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm correct here, so why would i be mad?

And only Hannibal king, Whistler and Buffy had some silver or wooden spikes. They're not surviving all too long here, being basically human and all. Nomak, Blade or van Helsing alone would wreck all three, let alone by vampires they can't see.

You aren't gonna ignore this:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
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U mad, Bro?

Read the OP. The mutants know how to kill them.

Also, since the Vamps are fully aware of the others teams powers, they could avoid any that would be a threat to them (assuming there are any) while using super speed, and just take out all the human durability ones quickly. The Mutants would then be outnumbered.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You aren't gonna ignore this:

I didn't. She's still not attacking what she can't see and she's not defending against what she can't see. So also ****ing ugly.

So she goes to shock-wave the twilight wolves, Van Helsing or other, the Anne Rice vamps tear her a new one shortly after. She's also likely not putting anyone on the supernatural team down for good with her waves.

You do keep ignoring the 'faster than the human eye can percieve' speed though.

Edit: What it'sd take her, 5-6 seconds to make that precise gun-breaking attack? She's to ****ing slow, don't even need the Rice vamps to kill her. She's no ace-in-the-hole, bro.

Originally posted by Placidity
Also, since the Vamps are fully aware of the others teams powers, they could avoid any that would be a threat to them (assuming there are any) while using super speed, and just take out all the human durability ones quickly. The Mutants would then be outnumbered.

Arc Light targets the entire forest, minus her mates, knocks the vampires on their asses.

Look at the power here:

TEAM MUTANT (All X Men movie feats apply for each combatant):

Wolverine
Storm
Nightcrawler
Colossus
Iceman
Pyro
Victor Creed
Mystique
Cyclops
John Wraith
Gambit
Agent Zero
Toad
Callisto
ArcLight
Kitty
Psylocke
Juggernaut
Beast

Also on Team Mutant are the following:

Seth and Richie Gecko
Hannibal King
Abigail Whistler
Buffy the Vampire slayer
Ozymandias

Originally posted by Robtard
I didn't. She's still not attacking what she can't see and she's not defending against what she can't see. So also ****ing ugly.

So she goes to shock-wave the twilight wolves, Van Helsing or other, the Anne Rice vamps tear her a new one shortly after. She's also likely not putting anyone on the supernatural team down for good with her waves.

You do keep ignoring the 'faster than the human eye can percieve' speed though.

She was able to target the guns only and leave everything else untouched. Here, she simply targets an area, leaving her mates untouched. She doesn't have to see each Vampire individually, dude. She can do this over and over. Every vampire will be knocked on their ass.

It's simple.

Originally posted by Robtard

Edit: What it'sd take her, 5-6 seconds to make that precise gun-breaking attack? She's to ****ing slow, don't even need the Rice vamps to kill her. She's no ace-in-the-hole, bro.

You forgot to mention those were only plastic guns too. We don't even know the effect of her attack on 'humans', let alone beings with enhanced durability/HF.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
lulz see, I knew you'd say that.

She was able to target the guns only and leave everything else untouched. Here, she simply targets an area, leaving her mates untouched. She doesn't have to see each Vampire individually, dude. She can do this over and over. Every vampire will be knocked on their ass.

It's simple.

She obviously had to see the guns in order to target them.

You're not following how fast the Rice vampires would be moving, any area she targets and happens to get lucky that the Rice-vamps just happen to be travelling through that spot, they'll have already moved a great distance by the time she does her little clap.

And why are all of team one in one nice area where she could attack them all? Just cos, right.

You're the one that said "they know each others powers"; if you consider her that much of a threat(she isn't), then team one would too and she'd get speed blitz a second after the fight starts. She's also ****ing ugly, so they'd likely just kill her first for that.

It is simple, team two is outclassed; by a large margin.

Originally posted by Robtard

You do keep ignoring the 'faster than the human eye can percieve' speed though.

Edit: What it'sd take her, 5-6 seconds to make that precise gun-breaking attack? She's to ****ing slow, don't even need the Rice vamps to kill her. She's no ace-in-the-hole, bro.

Hell, Cyke can simply remove his visor and do a 360 degree scan, blasting them all into oblivion.

Add on Cain barreling around like a runaway Mack truck, Nightcrawler and Wraith TPing around, Rice and Griffin doing the same, Gambit's powers, Zero and his guns, Colossus in metal form, Wolverine, Iceman and Pyro blasting away, and yeah, this is FAR from a curbstomp.

A small FYI, Dracula's Brides from Van Helsing can also move faster than the human eye can see.

Originally posted by Robtard
She obviously had to see the guns in order to target them.

You're not following how fast the Rice vampires would be moving, any area she targets and happens to get lucky that the Rice-vamps just happen to be travelling through that spot, they'll have already moved a great distance by the time she does her little clap.

You're the one that saidWith Storm summoning big ass tornadoes and ArcLight's shock wave attack, the vampires are gonna have their hands full trying to get close to the mutants.

Hell, Cyke can simply remove his visor and do a 360 degree scan, blasting them all into oblivion.

Add on Cain barreling around like a runaway Mack truck, Nightcrawler and Wraith TPing around, Rice and Griffin doing the same, Gambit's powers, Zero and his guns, Colossus in metal form, Wolverine, Iceman and Pyro blasting away, and yeah, this is FAR from a curbstomp. "they know each others powers"; if you consider her that much of a threat, then team one would too and she'd get speed blitz a second after the fight starts.

And why are all of team one in one nice area where she could attack them all? Just cos, right.

It is simple, team two is outclassed; by a large margin.

Originally posted by Placidity
A small FYI, Dracula's Brides from Van Helsing can also move faster than the human eye can see.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Indeed. They also fight like idiots. If one grabs Wolvie and tries draining him, he'll decap them.

Each team knows about the other, why then would they grab Wolverine knowing they can't kill him, he has a strong healing factor and will likely decapitate them?

Answer: they wouldn't.

Everyone on Team One has various levels of enhanced durability and accelerated healing.

Team Two has many fragile members (coincidently the ones with powers which are apparently a threat) with only human durability. Team One will take all of them down first.

Here, Storm and Callisto catfight:

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Yes, look at how fast Callisto moves at :18. Every bit as fast as a Rice Vamp.

And Storm? Look at the start of the vid. Storm'll elevate far out of the Vampires reach, summoning tornadoes and razing the entire forest with lightning.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
With Storm summoning big ass tornadoes and ArcLight's shock wave attack, the vampires are gonna have their hands full trying to get close to the mutants.

Hell, Cyke can simply remove his visor and do a 360 degree scan, blasting them all into oblivion.

Add on Cain barreling around like a runaway Mack truck, Nightcrawler and Wraith TPing around, Rice and Griffin doing the same, Gambit's powers, [b]Zero and his guns, Colossus in metal form, Wolverine, Iceman and Pyro blasting away, and yeah, this is FAR from a curbstomp. [/B]

Now Storm, there's a threat and she'd be gunned for first. Blade hitting her from the cover of trees, probably the best best. That or the flying vampires.

But they're fighting in a dense forest as per the OP, Storm starts making tornadoes everywhere, she'd be an equal threat to her team.

In a dense forest Cyclops is going to see everyone, let alone the speedsters? No.

Juggernaut is easily avoided. Nightcrawler is a total badass, but he doesn't have the attacks needed to take anyone down, unless he starts to teleport them into the air, which might slow some of them down, as many can heal. Rice and Griffin are here now? The ****?

Na, having opponents that move so fast makes it a clear curbstomp whole getting corn-holed. Team 2 has no chance, unless team 1 has to kill everyone to win. So it's either a loss for team two or they end up with a couple guns being pinned down and repeatedly raped in the ass.

Originally posted by Placidity
Each team knows about the other, why then would they grab Wolverine knowing they can't kill him, he has a strong healing factor and will likely decapitate them?

Answer: they wouldn't.

Everyone on Team One has various levels of enhanced durability and accelerated healing.

Team Two has many fragile members (coincidently the ones with powers which are apparently a threat) with only human durability. Team One will take all of them down first.

Storm, dude.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Here, Storm and Callisto catfight:

*vid*

Yes, look at how fast Callisto moves at :18. Every bit as fast as a Rice Vamp.

Thats why Storm was able to see her right?

Yea, good luck with that one.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

And Storm? Look at the start of the vid. Storm'll elevate far out of the Vampires reach, summoning tornadoes and razing the entire forest with lightning.

'Far out of reach'?

Dracula's Brides and Nina Harker, that makes Four.

Nina goes into bat form and rips the flesh from her bones.

Also, why did you make this thread if you were just going to go with the 'Storm makes tornadoes in half a second and kills everyone' thing again?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So she can see the general area where the vampires are. See how that works? Think outside the box, dude.

You're the one that saidWith Storm summoning big ass tornadoes and ArcLight's shock wave attack, the vampires are gonna have their hands full trying to get close to the mutants.

Never said that. "General area." ArcLight can cover everything in front of her.

Quite the opposite.

(since you edited)

It's a dense forest, she's not seeing shit and I don't think she can target the vast area of a forest.

I did? No. I said that while the mutants are busy fighting the super-maturals they can actually see, the ones that move so fast will be tearing them apart at leisure.

Great, which wouldn't be all of team 1 grouped together.

So team 1 is greatly outclassed? No, dude.

Originally posted by Robtard
Now Storm, there's a threat and she'd be gunned for first. Blade hitting her from the cover of trees, probably the best best. That or the flying vampires.

But they're fighting in a dense forest as per the OP, Storm starts making tornadoes everywhere, she'd be an equal threat to her team.p

In a dense forest Cyclops is going to see everyone, let alone the speedsters? No.

Juggernaut is easily avoided. Nightcrawler is a total badass, but he doesn't have the attacks needed to take anyone down, unless he starts to teleport them into the air, which might slow some of them down, as many can heal. Rice and Griffin are here now? The ****?

Na, having opponents that move so fast makes it a clear curbstomp whole getting corn-holed. Team 2 has no chance, unless team 1 has to kill everyone to win. So it's either a loss for team two or they end up with a couple guns being pinned down and repeatedly raped in the ass.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Here, Storm and Callisto catfight:

Yes, look at how fast Callisto moves at :18. Every bit as fast as a Rice Vamp.

And Storm? Look at the start of the vid. Storm'll elevate far out of the Vampires reach, summoning tornadoes and razing the entire forest with lightning.

We can litterally see Callisto move; Storm saw her move. It's not even close to 'faster than the eye can perceive' speeds.

Why is this still being debated?