Thor vs Wonder Woman - Pure Melee Fight

Yes, I would give her the majority in h2h against clark as well

they are all relatively comparable in strength

Herc, thor and supes all have moved planet sized weights IIRC.

Originally posted by khazra
Based on her barely surviving against him when it was explictedly stated he was trying to torture her (who he was viewing as doomsday). He was destroying her whilst trying to make her suffer (as opposed to just trying to kill her quick) and he snapped her wrist like a twig with little effort.

He was also specifically stated to not be holding back and be hitting as hard as he could, so there is that. In return she hurt his side and knocked him down hard enough that he stayed in the crater for awhile then only *slowly* got up, giving her plenty of time to fix her wrist then escape. Plus really hurt his ears.

She got in more hits and overall did a fair bit better, Wonder Woman got the better of him in that conflict.

He wanted it to hurt, but in HtH he was still losing. The writer (Greg Rucka) even said he was losing, that Superman had the advantage in the air but Wonder Woman did on the ground.

What multi megatonne feats does wonderwoman have? Her best strength feat is the asteroid feat IIRC and its a bit of an outlier as after that i believe its holding up a bridge. Class 100 for sure but low class 100.

Moving Earth and Moon feats with the JLA, of course. She and Superman together worked to lift the 'nigh-infinite' mass of the Spectre. The city-sized heavenly chariot of Asmodel.

Plus just in how she matches up against other powerful beings. She's stalemated Superman on several occasions, matched up evenly with Captain Marvel, only needed one arm to restrain Supergirl, can also hold Power Girl.

Not a lot of lifting feats, but a ton of matching up against high class-100s.

Originally posted by leonidas
BWHAHAH! nice.....

i could see a split in this, tbh. thor's wins would come from landing some uber haymaker before ........

Originally posted by psycho gundam
.... *wonder woman smirks, then does a flying armbar on thor's arm*

that'd be the sweetest thing ever.....

A deficient Superman beat Wonder Woman in Sacrifice. Not good examples to use, imo.

Wonder Woman uses hand to hand skills all the time. How would Thor have done against Amazo? I think he would have got his wig pushed back if he didn't have his other powers. While Wonder Woman's speed, skill, and near Superman strength let her live.

Originally posted by -Pr-
A deficient Superman beat Wonder Woman in Sacrifice. Not good examples to use, imo.

An all-out Superman who's mind wasn't impaired by anything but anger, and who used his powers together with skill, lost to Wonder Woman in Sacrifice.

When comparing how she deals with someone of high power, there's few purer choices. Normally he'd be holding back much more than that.

Originally posted by Q99
An all-out Superman who's mind wasn't impaired by anything but anger, and who used his powers together with skill, lost to Wonder Woman in Sacrifice.

When comparing how she deals with someone of high power, there's few purer choices. Normally he'd be holding back much more than that.

Didn't the writer of Sacrifice outright say Superman wasn't fighting efficiently? I know I read a quote similar to that like a year ago.

Pr?

Originally posted by Q99
An all-out Superman who's mind wasn't impaired by anything but anger, and who used his powers together with skill, lost to Wonder Woman in Sacrifice.

When comparing how she deals with someone of high power, there's few purer choices. Normally he'd be holding back much more than that.

Then she stated that she was holding back and at one point had him dead to rights when she sliced his throat with her tiara. Wonder woman had the physical advantage in that fight, that was pretty obvious imo.

Originally posted by TitoSanchez
I thought Superman gave everything he got in the Sacrifice. He punched her from the sun to the earth. That is as hard as he hit Darksied right?

Yes. He was stated to be holding nothing back, he thought she was Doomsday-who-killed Lois.

He wasn't fighting quite as smart as normally; he took some hits because he was being too aggressive, but he was at full 'trying to take down Doomsday' level fighting.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalm

Someone claiming Diana winning while wrong is something I can live with. Someone claiming Thor will get his ass whopped is just deluded, and ignorant.

Make it a hand to hand fight and Thor has a very good chance of beating Clark.

She's not just as strong or a better fighter.

Wonder Woman's hand to hand skills are so overrated it's crazy.

Her greatest showing of skill in recent history that I can remember is knocking down Black Canary in a training session using staffs.

Why is the notion that Thor can hang in hand to hand with Diana shocking?

Did she get some massive upgrade after her depowering? The only advantage she has is speed.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Didn't the writer of Sacrifice outright say Superman wasn't fighting efficiently? I know I read a quote similar to that like a year ago.

Pr?

What?

Originally posted by tideoftime
(And, btw, Diana's martial skills are *not* overrated, for those who state otherwise: DC has only be indicating left, right, and center for over two decades now, by numerous comics/references listed by others in various threads, that she is one of the best H2H fighters around, and a beast with classical weapons... also, she's pretty good with modern/high-tech weapons, as well, though obviously her best skills lay in the classical ones. Lastly, for the ignorant, Diana - much like Thor - has spent many centuries training -- in more than one storyline/arc, including the thousand years she spent fighting in a Norse-mythos realm with Supes at her side, she has accumulated many lifetimes of combat experience to suppliment her incredible training and innate gods-given talents -- so the question of "experience" is largely negated for a fight like this.)

Like I said, overrated. All bark and no bite. The last time I asked for a list of her feats, all I got was quotes from Batman. Lulz.

Is Diana skilled? Those comments should be worth something. Is she half as skilled as people want her to be? No.

Thor has more than a few centuries under his belt.

Oh, and IIRC, once they returned, their time spent in that 1000 year war was like a foggy dream. I remember reading this in an issue related to Christmas or some such.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Like I said, overrated. All bark and no bite. The last time I asked for a list of her feats, all I got was quotes from Batman. Lulz.

Thor has more than a few centuries under his belt.

Oh, and IIRC, once they returned, their time spent in that 1000 year war was like a foggy dream. I remember reading this in an issue related to Christmas or some such.

This guy right here couldn't land a punch. She seemed to be as skilled as he but faster.

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/07/08/1229774_500x769.jpg

She has no powers right here and she is holding her own against the godess of the hunt and skill Diana.

http://www.picamatic.com/view/1229817_wonderwomanv2192161wy/

She fights Medusa while Blinded
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/07/14/1229827_560x869.jpg

Originally posted by TitoSanchez
Her greatest skill came from beating super powered martial artist while being depowered, out skilling the god Mercury and impressing him, saving the universe using her skill as Zeus said her skill is all that saved them, beating the godess Diana, Godess of skill, holding her own against Amazo, Konvict, and That fat New God chick. She easily out skilled Power Woman. She also fought Cheshire, Cheetah, and one other martial artist at the same time hand to hand. She beat Barda hand to hand, the leader and most skilled of the female furies. If Thor is stronger than Wonder Woman, I do not see by any measurable degree. The beings they fight hand to hand all seem to be the same level of strength.

Never saw the first claim. Everything else I have seen and I'm not impressed. Except the Big Barda fight. That was a decent display.

Really? The Destroyer alone is above any foe Diana takes on physically that I can think of.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Never saw the first claim. Everything else I have seen and I'm not impressed. Except the Big Barda fight. That was a decent display.

Really? The Destroyer alone is above any foe Diana takes on physically that I can think of.

Originally posted by TitoSanchez
Time on Amazon Island doesn't move. She spent thousands of years there training. She's also beaten the God of war in hand to hand a couple of times. Overated?

Diana is thousands of years old? I've never read that. As a matter of fact, I remember her being less than a century old under Perez and even Byrne. But's it's been a while.

Again, not impressed. You Diana fans are all about titles and flash showings. You're the same folks that would consider Supergirl's little fight against Reactron as a showing of impressive skill I'd wager.

That's what separates Wonder Woman fans from others. You can take the most mediocre showing in the world and spin it into something amazing. It's uncanny. Thorbags have their persistence, Gammafags have their idiocy.

Ares apparently knows every form of combat and has mastered every weapon. Thor kicked his ass even when he had his strength amped threefold .

^I can do it too.

Originally posted by TitoSanchez
This guy right here couldn't land a punch. She seemed to be as skilled as he but faster.

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/07/08/1229774_500x769.jpg

She has no powers right here and she is holding her own against the godess of the hunt and skill Diana.

http://www.picamatic.com/view/1229817_wonderwomanv2192161wy/

She fights Medusa while Blinded
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/07/14/1229827_560x869.jpg

My point exactly.

Was she depowered against Batman?

If that's what you consider holding your own, then I have a lot of feats for Thor that I can use.

I'll admit, the Medusa fight was a decent showing of skill.

That's what separates Wonder Woman fans from others. You can take the most mediocre showing in the world and spin it into something amazing. It's uncanny. Thorbags have their persistence, Gammafags have their idiocy.

Originally posted by Q99
An all-out Superman who's mind wasn't impaired by anything but anger, and who used his powers together with skill, lost to Wonder Woman in Sacrifice.

When comparing how she deals with someone of high power, there's few purer choices. Normally he'd be holding back much more than that.

disagreed. heavily. i honestly don't see a basis for what you just stated.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Didn't the writer of Sacrifice outright say Superman wasn't fighting efficiently? I know I read a quote similar to that like a year ago.

Pr?

i honestly don't recall. the comic should honestly be proof enough, though.